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[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 125 points 1 year ago (55 children)

What a time to be alive to see millions of people getting starved to death live while world leaders applaud and call it defense.

[–] probablyaCat@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (35 children)

Honestly this is an awful situation. But the reason you don't see more harsh criticisms from world leaders (and there have been criticisms and statements calling some of what they are doing as illegal) is because the world leaders know that they may need to same option if something similar happens to them.

Do you have a better suggestion for what Israel should do in order to respond. And saying "free Palestine" doesn't count. They completely left Gaza and it got worse. I can't stand Bibi, but he absolutely called it when they were planning to leave Gaza. The blockade of Gaza didn't start until Hamas took over. And do recall Egypt is also blockading.

If Tijuana started launching rockets and attacked thousands of civilians in California, what do think the response would look like? Or if Morocco did the same to Ceuta?

I don't see how this attack ends. I mean it has absolutely destroyed the chance for Gaza reps to be involved in peace talks. Not that there was much chance of that. Honestly, if I had to guess, Israel plans to wipe out all of the higher up Hamas this time in an attempt to bring Gaza back under the PA/Fatah.

But, given the situation is what it is, how do you think the Israeli government should respond?

[–] VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

I mean, they kind of left Gaza. They still send soldiers in there all the time, they still control most of its borders, it's water, electricity, trash, etc, and they cut those things off all the time. It's basically an open air prison.

Also, Israel has killed off all higher Hamas members before so that won't work. And Bibi supported Hamas to prevent a two state solution before so doubt he wants them united under one government. He just wants to do a genocide now, let's be honest.

As for possible solutions, there's too much emnity between Israel and Palestine, there probably needs to be a third party at this point, even though one caused the problem in the first place lol. Someone that's not the US or UK, since Israel is basically their puppet state and the UK caused the initial issues, and not one of the anti-Israel states like Iran. Or maybe it needs to be formed from both groups so that both points of view are represented? Idk. A solution is definitely the hardest part for sure.

[–] jscummy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only reason they can cut off water and power is because Israel provides them with those things. PA has been given money to develop infrastructure, but Hamas chooses to cut up pipes to build rockets and use cement for smuggling tunnels.

[–] archiotterpup@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

PA doesn't have any power in Gaza.

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