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I see reddit literally forcing their hand to have the subreddits open, but that hasn't stopped a couple of them from going NSFW or just malicious compliance. What better way to maliciously comply than to send their users to a decentralized competitor? I mean, they'd have to pony up to get it up and running, but that's nothing some donations / light ads couldn't fix

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[–] nonexcludable@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Some are doing just this. But most mods, like most users, don't know much about the fediverse, other than that it exists.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

@nonexcludable @masires

On top of this - a lot of mods (like a lot of users) dislike the fediverse. The Twitter -> Mastodon exodus left a bad taste in a lot of peoples' mouths, and that holds true for mods as well as users.

I'm in a Discord with a bunch of other Reddit mods. We originally were using it to organize the protest, but it's become a place to discuss next steps. A lot of them pony up the "the fediverse is too confusing" angle. Even when it's explained, they say "No, it's too confusing" and refuse to even try to ask questions about where they're getting lost. Instead, they push alternatives like Squabbles (which seems to be the most common among the anti-fediverse folks).

On top of that, both Lemmy and Kbin don't have much in the way of moderation tools. There doesn't appear to be a spam filter and certainly no AutoModerator. Kbin's API is (currently) read-only, so a bot can't even be written to work like AutoMod. This makes large communities much harder to moderate and should basically be the next step for devs once they stabilize from the Reddit exodus, as anything with more than 1000 users will quickly start to become basically impossible for human mods to keep up.

The fact that those tools don't exist turns a lot of mods off from joining as well, and fuels the anti-fediverse sentiment.

Some of the holdouts understand the limitations and just don't think it's a good platform for them. They have legitimate criticisms and point out ways that their communities wouldn't work properly on Kbin/Lemmy. Other holdouts are stubbornly pig-headed and refuse to understand. They derisively dismiss anyone who tries to explain as a "tech bro", dig in their heels and draw a hard line in the sand for reasons they can't even explain other than "I don't like anything fediverse."

But there is a list of subs that are advertising their fediverse equivalents; my sub (500k+ members) has an ad for our community in the "we're reopening, sadly" sticky and the sidebar. You can also see a list of places which have equivalents over at https://sub.rehab/; anything with the "official" label is advertised somewhere by the mods that run that sub on Reddit.

[–] Galloog1@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am joining on the hope that a lot of these features will be developed and integrated eventually but acknowledge the suddenness of the change. Is there anything in the works?

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Various things being talked about, nothing concrete. Looks like every community will be going somewhere on their own that meets their own needs rather than any single destination.

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