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[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 238 points 1 year ago (31 children)

When it comes down to it, this is a hell of a deal for the US. We spend a tiny fraction of our military budget to de-fang Putin and don't have to fire a single shot ourselves.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 134 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

Better than defanging is real world testing.

What worked as expected, what didn't, how we can make it better etc.

It's not often you get to deploy these weapons.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (11 children)

What will happen to the US defense budget now that we know it's unnecessary?

That was rhetorical by the way, I know it's going to increase.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not sure about "unnecessary." 5% works for Ukraine but also it has a much smaller land mass. You can't use that 5% to protect the entirety of the US' borders along with every other place we are stationed along with the required ongoing maintenance

I'm not saying the budget isn't ridiculously high, but also saying it's unnecessary as a whole is just incorrect

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

5% is also us supplying to Ukraine a fraction of their needs, and few of the core costs of a military - like personnel costs, which make up 40% of the US military budget.

The military budget is bloated, just... not nearly to the degree people think.

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True. Hospital higher ups probably thought that extra hospital beds were extra money/upkeep that would be better spent elsewhere. So they cut it back to meet the average use. Then covid hit and everyone freaked out for a while because their patient count had a huge spike and no resources for a surge like that. It seems like we're already forgetting those lessons

For emergency services a little extra seems like a waste until you need it. Most European militaries would struggle for a while if a war were to break out because they are geared toward normal needs. Ukraine has been a wake up call and now they are getting the funding to modernize and start increasing to a more capable size.

I know. It's just absurd taken as a whole. Even something as small as ending the 1033 would do much to quell me

[–] TheWoozy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, we have to defend our super long boarders with those dangerous aggressive nations called Canada & Mexico.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine thinking if we went to war that other countries couldn't possibly use the fucking water

[–] AssPennies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Well not after midnight anyway... or was that eating?

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