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[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago (32 children)

Nobody wants to maintain anything.

When you fail to maintain coal, gas, wind, or solar, it just stops working for the time being.

When you fail to maintain nuclear systems (be that poor understanding, lack of training, negligence, whatever), things go very bad very quickly.

This is before you get into wider issue's like waste management and environmental concerns.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Oh boy, another hot take from a well educated and informed source, I’m sure.

80% of what you think about nuclear is fossil fuel propaganda, 10% is because the soviets are dipshits, and the last 10% are reasonable concerns that redundant safety system upon redundant safety systems address.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de -4 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Let me tell you about the "Asse" in Lower Saxony, Germany...

There is no way to safely store nuclear waste. It makes entire landscapes unusable, it lasts nearly forever and... the waste management is done by the state, not the company!

Nuclear power is some capitalist bullshit that outsources the waste and risks to the state. Only in that case its profitable in any way.

Solar and Wind are so much easier, solar extremely. If we could change out loads, focus everything on the day and simply not use that much at night, we wouldnt even need that much wind. Decentralized, local networks of Solar Power are the future.

[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except there are ways to use the waste as fuel. So no, not some "capitalist bullshit". Just a problem with a solution.

[–] Anamana@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only the fuel can be reused up to a certain percentage. Most of the waste is just waste that you have to store somewhere.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Okay, so what is the waste mitigation for solar panels and windwill blades?

Currently they just get land filled. Or burnt.

[–] Anamana@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's bad there is not better recycling for some parts as of now, but there are plenty of companies actively working on new techniques regarding that. Short article on it here.

It's also not nuclear trash, so you can dispose of it way easier and cheaper.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Windmill blades are afaik way worse than solar panels. And again, as its capitalist, focussing on efficiency, price or even (who would expect?) planned obsolescence, these products may not be as repairable as possible.

For example, give up 2% efficiency but have the solar panel parts easily seperateable. Have every part modular, they may be bigger and heavier, but allow a circular economy.

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