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[–] ToxicWaste@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Nowadays everything seems newsworthy... I would not be mad about it if Bethesda did not include a pronoun setting, i am not mad someone made a mod to remove said option, i am not mad nexus keeping its sovereignty to decide what they host...

What is everyone mad about? Just let ppl do whatever they do.

[–] kazakhspy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am, like, mildly upset about it being removed, at most. Seems like moderation team is going a bit overboard, deleting something that seems extremely mild.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does nothing but act as a middle finger toward a threatened minority.

[–] ToxicWaste@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lets worry about real homophobic/ transphobic problems please. I won't go into whether the author of the mod was giving a middle finger to ppl or just always wanted the pronouns of the perceived gender for their game. Without reading the description, it is pure speculation. Even with the description, it will likely be a good amount of speculation.

In my opinion, we should worry about things that are not argumentative. Because that muddies the pool and makes future arguments harder...

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

it is pure speculation.

Horseshit. It targets a feature right-wing cranks are frothing about, and it has exactly the same effect as ignoring the option. Stop feigning ignorance about what diet Nazi trolls openly despise.

Nobody cares about your willful apathy on this topic. If you don't care, stop talking.

[–] ToxicWaste@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look i am about done arguing here, so don't expect further comments here from me.

You and I probably have similar political interests. However, at least to me, your aggressive approach is off-putting and does not invite for discussions. It reminds me of what is happening in Germany: The far right crazy party is being excluded by a 'firewall'. Whatever the right extremist party wants is categorically rejected, even in the rare case that it is nothing stupid (like rise funding for a public theater). It does not solve the problem, but further radicalised the members and even gave them a boost in voters. What they are presented with, is that they have to achieve more than 50%. Otherwise those far rightists wont achieve anything. Politics is about discussions and finding the path that is the most agreeable for the largest amount of people possible.

TLDR: I agree with your goals, not your methods.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Because appeasing the far right in Germany went so well for so many.

The methods in this case are a website saying "no thank you."

If that's beyond the pale, what the fuck is left?

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mind leach above made an extremely good point so I'm just gonna copy paste it.

Trolls escalate. They keep pushing until they get smacked down, then cry and scream and pretend they've been proven right. Being ignored doesn't just embolden them, it bores them, and tells them they need to get worse to get attention. No matter what happens - no matter what anyone says to them - they get to use it in their stupid little word game.

The nature of bad faith is that there is no right answer.

You have to simply get rid of it, and the sooner, the better.

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