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Although this is from yesterday, I thought there were some good points, that makes it worth seeing.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I suspect Elon Musk is acting as an agent for China, and China supports Russia.

But no matter the reason, Elon Musk is not acting in the interests of USA or the West or democracy.

[–] cryball@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'd guess that if he was an agent, he isn't acting voluntarily. Instead he's probably influenced by chinese and saudi money.

Another simpler, but just as plausible explanation could be that he's basically a human with a giant ego that bounces from one incident to another. None of this seems very planned. Instead he seems to be acting on a whim.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

bounces from one incident to another.

That doesn't mach how he consistently has parroted Russian propaganda for 1½ year.

[–] Hopfgeist@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would still argue that Hanlon's razor applies: "Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity."

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Except we now know Musk is a full blown narcissist. The pedophile incident is just one example, but there are also other examples, like how he treats minorities, and frequently behaves like a bully on twitter. Together with his support for Trump who also support Russia, the picture is crystal clear. That when it regards Elon Musk we could apply what we could call a reverse Hanlon's razor, never apply to ignorance that which can be explained by narcissist malice.

PS: I'm guessing you didn't watch the video. Because the consistency is pretty clear.

[–] Hopfgeist@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I have now, but that doesn't really change my mind. You have a point and it becomes a matter of semantics. I don't think it's actual malice in that he consciously wants to cause harm (on balance), but that he is so thoroughly misguided because of his own sense of infallibility, that he truly thinks he is a force for good in the world. Is that stupidity? It becomes a matter of definition. The video is too short and selective to really make any call based on it. "There are no 'ordinary' Russians on Twitter"? How can he tell? Maybe he has explained that in previous videos.

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