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SEE SECOND EDIT DOWN BELOW

Lets not beat around the bush here, lots of people like to look at boobs and dicks.

Lemmynsfw was looking like a good place to go, but reading the "Loli" announcement thread where they equate drawn child porn to petite women, its clear the owner is not the right person to be hosting a NSFW instance for the majority of people.

Is there anywhere else that people can recommend?

There is undoubtably a need for such an instance. Can we discuss this like adults?

edit: UPDATE

Take this update as you will

I'm taking it as a backtrack, but it's still not an instance I want to associate with.

Lots of people keen to offer their opinion of drawn picture of naked kids, haven't seen any alternatives though

Edit 2: At this point I think their updated rules are good. It took a bit to get there, but in the end they appear to be taking a hard stance. Hopefully this is enforced.

I dont think it was a case of "whoops bad English" like they are suggesting, I think it was a total 180 backflip. This doesnt really instill confidence in the admins IMO, but im happy that they have made the right decision in regards to allowed content. Hopefully this is was just some early wobblies and the community can move on.

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[–] Hanhula@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (11 children)

It's not Japanese culture. I know a fair few Japanese friends who are disgusted by lolicon.

The fact is, if you're drawing childlike characters and putting them in sexual situations.. there's something fucked there. Sure, they're not real, but it's still fucked up to be attracted to that in the first place. They look like children!

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Hi, I'm an actual full grown real life 30 year old adult. I look like a minor. Should I just not be allowed to date and have relationships with other adults?

[–] geoffervescent@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Of course not. But if you date and have relationships the other people involved understand the context exactly. If you started sending random nudes of your "I'm an actual full grown real life 30 year old adult. I look like a minor" self to strangers, how what would the context be.

Now of course NSFW animation is harmless. But you can understand the worry for 1000s of normies who click and the first thought they have is "Fuck is this CP? what am I looking at? I need to reevaluate my website choices." if they have zero reference points from life or culture except what's illegal tabboo and disgusting in their culture.

The great thing about the Fediverse though - there will likely be an instance where a vast majority share your opinion and can connect to all the same instances from an 3rd origin point instance.

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

If the concern is "normies seeing", then perhaps a suitable compromise would be to hide such content from the front page by default? so that only people who explicitly subscribe to it can see it?

I'm an advocate of "curate your own experience". I don't want to see half the fucked up nsfw shit people post, yet you do not see me crying over defederating instances that host it.

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