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A closed system is closed because all of the edges aren't open.
I think you are misquoting the laws of thermodynamics.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_thermodynamics
It's very important to understand the rule and the implications. It's self-consistent. They are axiomatic, so if you can come up with a better system that and demonstrate it you can beat it. But until then they're laws.
My misquotation was on purpose.
in the same thread of thoughts : if there was a system without the first law, anything could appear as if by magic !
...that is, until the 1st law appears.
It sounds like you're confused on what a natural law is. They do not prescribe the behavior of a system, they describe it.
The first law is a law because our observations state that all systems obey it, not the other way around.
What you're saying is "If there was a system that behaves fundamentally differently than every system yet observed, then it would not follow the laws of thermodynamics." Which is kind of the point.
On a side note :
is there something in nature that prescribes the conservation of energy ?
(please, if you answer this, do so under my other comment (big bang...) ...I don't want to lose track of the main topic).