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Can we prevent cars from sending data to servers if we remove their antennae? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I don't know anything about cars.

Now that we have established that cars seriously undermine our privacy (look at the flurry of posts in this community in the last few hours), what can we do about it?

From a networking POV, if you remove the ability to connect to the Internet, it doesn't matter what the car is recording as long as you can ensure there is no physical tampering. Depending on who you are, this is a good idea, and doable for the most part (very few people have the technical knowledge to pull out the right chip from a car).

So, how do we achieve this? I implore the community to invite mechanical/car engineers who can help us on this matter, and to form methods to prevent vehicles from accessing the Internet without express consent from the user.

Thanks!

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[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

I've had a thought I'd love to have a chance to try one day...

I'd like to see about not only disconnecting the antenna, but also basically wrap the cellular circuit module in metal screen, basically a crude Faraday Cage.

I've never had any chance to try such a thing, but I can only imagine it would probably do the trick.

Edit: For those that believe this will cause the vehicle to malfunction or even brick itself, have you never drove through a tunnel and found you lost Internet? Your vehicle won't stop functioning just because it lost Internet, it literally cannot do that.

That would be like the absolutely most unsafe thing any vehicle could ever do, to stop functioning because of an internet connection failure.

[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Or the car just doesn't start one day because it hasn't connected to its server in a month, forcing you to go to the dealer to fix it. Why do you so fervently believe a manufacturer wouldn't resort to tactics like this that they already employ for other systems? It's naive to think that manufacturers would never remotely disable a car in full or in part because it has been modified without authorization. If it profits them, they physically can, and no regulation prevents it, they will. Right to repair is a nice movement, that I fully support, but it's very very far from a universal right anywhere.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate to have to give you this upvote 👍

You're not wrong.

[–] abff08f4813c@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Hopefully they just haven’t thought about that yet

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