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It's almost as if many countries within Eastern Europe and Asia have generational trauma associated with acts of violence, oppression, and genocide connected to those symbols.
I've never understood the obsession with Soviet iconography within communist spaces, especially when there are plenty of communists that acknowledge that the Soviet Union never actually lived up to the ideals of communism, and acknowledge the acts of imperialism and genocide committed by their regime.
The swastika and other ancient symbols are banned for similar reasons in many countries for their association with fascists, and most people seem to be on board with it. But when countries that were directly harmed by communist regimes start to ban soviet iconography, there is suddenly a double standard and a lack of understanding.
I think modern communists who sincerely believe in social justice need to divorce themselves from these symbols of oppression. There are plenty of symbols of solidarity, unity, and workers empowerment that could be used that don't have the same level of taint. I'm a fan of the big dipper myself.
All of that would require accepting that having communism as the end goal has caused death and oppression similar, if not worse then, the Nazis.
And they'll never admit that. Because if they do, then they open the door for criticism of any current "communism" like China. And we're not allowed to talk about the genocides that China is responsible for. If China's flags were green and they used a tractor instead of a hammer and sickle then there would be anough cognitive dissonance to allow for criticism of past regimes while pretending that you're not doing the same thing now. But it's too late. That iconography is now representing China, so they must defend the sanctity of those icons. It's a lot like religion. Or a cult.
If following the Marxist definition, I don't think the end goal of communism is inherently a bad thing. The issue comes from the means of achieving it, and the issue with Marxist-Leninism and Maoism is its tendency towards purity, conformity, compulsory adherence and authoritarianism.
I think you are right in the sense that because China calls itself communist, people are quick to defend it despite the fact that it's current political economic system seems to resemble authoritarian capitalism moreso than even Maoism. Then again, North Korea seperated itself from its communist label decades ago, and Russia isn't even the same political regime it was during the Soviet era, and a lot of self proclaimed communists still jump to their defense.
I can understand being critical of or even hostile to the United States and other first world capitalist nations, but the enemy of your enemy isn't always your friend. Otherwise Imperial Japan would've been based as fuck even though it raped and enslaved people under the guise of "antiimperialism" and "east Asian co-prosperity."
I was wrong to say that the end goal leads to the outcome. What I should have said was that aiming for that end goal has led to the same outcome.
I think you and I are on the same page regarding this topic though. Maybe a better term would be "authoritarianism", but then people claim that Communism is not authoritarian, which doesn't matter because Communism hasn't ever happened... It's so easy to loose sight of the problem when focusing on the definitions.
There's a song by Living Color called Cult of Personality that fits this well.
https://youtu.be/7xxgRUyzgs0?si=SH_YZ8_dSwZdjWF-