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[–] Wolf_359@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, they don't seem to understand what informant means.

My understanding of this is that he was a real alt-right Nazi who lead a legitimately fascist organization. He wasn't an FBI agent who started an organization to catch alt-right folks. He was a Nazi who was happy to snitch to save his own ass.

[–] blaine@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think the implication isn't that the FBI started the Proud Boys, it's that they had enough informants in place to arrest the seditionists before the insurrection happened. Like the last paragraph in the screenshot says- they're accusing the FBI of allowing the insurrection to happen because they were too busy using the Proud Boys as a honeypot to bother shutting it down. Obviously the Proud Boys are still a problem, but it may recontextualize things to have the extra info about the FBi's extensive foreknowledge of the attacks.