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Young climate activist tells Greenpeace to drop ‘old-fashioned’ anti-nuclear stance
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The arguments of Greenpeace against nuclear power have nothing to do with age though. It's too expensive, which takes money away from e.g. wind and solar, with less carbon-free energy in the end for the money spent and more fossil fuels being used as a consequence. And still produces nuclear waste. Just develop batteries, hydrogen and the likes for storage. And ban or tax the use of fossil fuels. This debate is not over yet, not by a long shot, and climate will remain in the news as long as we live, I'm afraid.
Nuclear power isn't expensive. It's launching a cutting-edge industry with a lot of inertia and not giving it the time and means to pay for itself that's expensive.
And don't even get me started on the Levelized Cost of Energy. These studies give a big advantage to renewable energies, since they only take into account the cost of building, maintaining and dismantling a given energy plant.
That's roughly 100% of the cost of a nuclear power plant, whereas most of the cost of solar and wind power will be found in the solutions that need to be put in place to compensate for their lack of controllability, such as redundant power plants, dams and other forms of storage of considerable size, which are therefore never counted in these cost estimates.
At present, we don't even have the technical means to have enough storage to afford 100% wind + solar in a country, so we're completely unable to estimate how much it would actually cost.
The reality is exactly the opposite: France has been producing most of its electricity with nuclear power since the 70s and 80s, and has had its electricity almost entirely decarbonized since the 90s, for a total cost of less than 150 billion euros for the nuclear industry between 1960 and 2010, according to a report by the Cour des Comptes.
Germany, on the other hand, which has been anti-nuclear and pro-renewables for 20 years, with 40% RE, produces 9 times more carbon with its electricity mix.
The entirety of high level radioactivity waste produced by France for 60 years (containing 90%+ of the radioactivity).
You can see the contradiction here: how can we claim that renewable energies are cheaper when we have yet to develop solutions to make them work on a national scale?
We're still a long way from having the technology for batteries that can power entire countries for hours or days on end, and hydrogen means we'll have to oversize our power plants several times over to make up for its inefficiency.
Thanks to French nuclear power, we have proof that it is possible to produce safe, inexpensive nuclear power that can be deployed in two decades. Almost all of France's current nuclear fleet was built between 1970 and 1990, providing 70%-80% of French electricity production for almost 40 years, at a rate of 2 reactors completed per year at a cost of 1 billion per 1000MW unit.
We're still waiting for a working example of a country that runs on wind and solar power without huge hydroelectric capacity or nuclear power for backup.
Why the fuck would they put all their nuclear waste in a cube and leave it by the sea in Marseille. Those french morons.
A bad mouth could argue that it wouldn't make Marseille dirtier