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[–] ksynwa@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 years ago (6 children)

If there is a problem with the administration, is there a need for a fork? Can't someone just start another instance and administer it in their own manner? AFAIK the fork is just there because people lose their minds over the slur filter.

The other guy got banned for finding /c/accelerationism which apparently lemmy admins are not fan of as a philosophy.

Are you sure it was only this? The modlog shows wraptile banning people for disagreeing with them and creating a toxic environment. In the past, I have seen them attack someone and call them 'fascist' for a banal comment.

[–] work_at_google@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (5 children)

If there is a problem with the administration, is there a need for a fork?

dunno, but it seems to be the only way to remove unwanted code? (e.g. slur filter)
Being unsatisfied with current maintainers is kinda the whole point of forks, isn't it?

Also the github issue tracker seems rough and the lenny fork seems to be more open in that regard.

Are you sure it was only this? The modlog shows wraptile banning people for disagreeing with them and creating a toxic environment. In the past, I have seen them attack someone and call them ‘fascist’ for a banal comment.

I just went through the whole /c/accelerationism log and the guy definitely didn't deserve the ban. The community was pretty much brigaded by people who don't like the concept and the post that broke the camels back was literally saying "the creator has bad ideas" 😬

This is the comment for which they have been for removing for and banning the person from the community. Further it looks like to comment's creator was so embarrassed by this comment that they have removed it themselves!

I'm totally on the wreptile's side here, dude totally got bullied off the platform :D

And for Pazerfaust that's even more black and white. Dude got publically labeled a nazi for comparing communism to fascism, ouch.

[–] ksynwa@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 years ago (4 children)

The whole purpose of that fork seems to be removal of the slur filter. I am sorry if you feel oppressed by being unable to use slurs in your posts. What is so good about their issue tracker? It seems completely empty, both on Github and the My Little Pony themed gitea instance.

[–] work_at_google@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 years ago (1 children)

to be fair, hard-coded slur filter is extremely childish. What if you want to launch a non-english instance and english slur filter is catching false positives? e.g. you cannot say the word "late" in french with this filter.

Why is it even there if it can be avoided by a dot in the middle of the word? Is lemmy for toddlers or something?

[–] ksynwa@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 years ago (1 children)

It's there to dissuade alt-right communities from using Lemmy. Seems to work too because they lose their minds over supposed free speech impediments. I don't think the devs expect it to be an ultimate solution to a slur-free utopia.

As for edge cases with non-English languages, that issue has been raised on Github before and has been fixed.

[–] work_at_google@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Seems to work too because they lose their minds over supposed free speech impediments.

I highly doubt it has any sort of an effect. I mean you can get around it with a dot or a synonym or whatever. There's a reason "slur filters" aren't a thing — because they don't work. Even club penguin couldn't work it out with 5 year olds and had to have live admins anyways.

[–] ksynwa@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 years ago

As I said it is meant to dissuade. It isn't perfect but it's straightforward to implement and except for a few edge cases it doesn't cause any hiccups. If you have better solutions, feel free to suggest them to the devs. Just saying something that isn't that much of an impediment to begin with doesn't work without suggesting better ways isn't constructive.

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