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[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I know a lot of you are meming, but the amount of dogshit takes here is almost depressing.

There is no single answer to what a good government looks like, there is no "best one" and surely any single one that is based purely on ideals or idealized human behavior will fail, no matter how hard you believe in it.

One of the arguably most successful governments is the Chinese one and they are and were neither just, nor friendly, nor purely capitalist, communist or authoritarian. They are very China first and fuck everyone else and that works because of a lack of conscience and them adapting to everything without a second thought. Looking away and screwing people over as needed. You can be capitalist as long as it works for them. You can do whatever if it benefits them.

The US does this too, in different ways with similar effects.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

the amount of dogshit takes here is depressing. This guy just praised the chinese government.

[–] DIY_Dentist@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And? Do you believe that they're 100% evil doing nothing worthy of praise and wherever you are is "good"? And you say others have dogshit takes?

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup. My politics opens me up to being in opposition to the state, any state, or even all states, without discounting the achievements of the people. Value is built by labor and funded by capital. That state is pure evil and finding new ways to do more evil.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 year ago

Well, that is your loss.

We wouldn't have a functioning society without a state.

You think those corporations will do the best for a fair and even society without someone hitting them in submission?

They would bring slavery back if it weren't for regulations, since that is even more cost effective than paying the minimum amount they can.

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