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One way to conceptualize the scale
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Pulling back even further like a million years shows the "global reorganizations of the planetary climate system". There was a regular pattern of ice ages and interglacial periods the Earth had fallen into, giving rise to stable periods, the last one being why we exist as we are and could develop agriculture and civilization. That pattern is over now thanks to the catalyst of human influence. The Earth will eventually settle into a new "normal", but it will not be anything we are familiar with. It might be so different than even past hothouses that we can't even draw from history thanks to the rate of change we've artificially sparked.
Yep. Buckle up.
About a year ago I was walking around with someone down near the river, just a nice place with open grass and some charming buildings off in the distance, and all of a sudden I started getting pretty emotional, like almost crying. She didn't know me as a super-emotional guy and was confused, and I related to her what made me upset -- basically, all of this is going away. In 50-100 years this little paradise place is gone. Guaranteed. I don't know how long exactly it'll be or what will be here instead, but it definitely won't be this nice grass and the well-kept buildings and boats on the river.
I like the place, it's wonderful; and it's going away, not to come back. Not that long from now.
And when I’ve talked to those a fair amount older than me, and they tell me how my "nice" is incredibly sad and denuded and dead by the standards of what they remember… The short memory of mankind, our brief lifespans.
specifically the weather before WWI was said to be much more pleasant and reliable.