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[–] Smallletter@lemmy.world 127 points 1 year ago (56 children)

Unironically me as an IT professional who uses Windows. It just works. I have to fuck around with all that shit all day, I don't want to go home and do it too.

[–] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (25 children)

As a windows user in corporate IT. It just doesn't work. I spend most of my time hacking my way through useless unix pseudo toys, wsl2, cygwin, mingw... Each one for every tool because... Reasons. And because wsl2 is just painful. So we spend time creating fake unix virtual machines via docker on kubernetes using vs code remotely on expensive linux clusters... Frustrating.

Go home and turn on a linux laptop just to see a real functional terminal. Deep breath, zen, cathartic.

Windows makes my otherwise fine daily work miserable.

I hate enterprise IT. Built for sending around emails and working with excel sheets.

I am seriously thinking about starting an AI start up just to avoid risking another windows laptop switching job (they always promise cool stuff, at the end they always deliver overpriced windows garbage, my 8 years old laptop is more functional than their $ 3k notebook)

[–] moriquende@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Sounds like you're just more familiar with Linux and that's fine. I use Linux, Windows and MacOS regularly and haven't had a problem with Windows honestly. The most frustrating of the 3 is MacOS, and even then it's nitpicking.

[–] jeanma@lemmy.ninja 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sounds like you’re just more familiar with Linux and that’s fine

While it is partly true, I can't deny I spent the last 15years on linux, I have my fair amount of deal with windows in a professional setup, I can't totally accept this response then, hence the word partly true :P.

Now, explain me how any familiarity with Windows can help when a vanilla installation for windows 10 pro, used for two specific application (nothing cloudy), no game, almost offline, etc... How this system decides, randomly to not allow me to literally login in, looping forever before giving prompt, or pretend there is issue with my PIN and or my profile although I use plain passphrase and my account is local and literally nothing has changed system wise since the last session! I have disabled all the auto update shit everywhere (the obvious one and the one I know about) and no updates in between.

You could say I might no know this particular register bit field. Probably but then, we are not in the easy/just works view.

[–] moriquende@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly this sounds like a freak accident. I use Windows myself and work with people using Windows regularly and never heard of something like that. And I guess you can achieve an unrecoverable state on any operating system given the right conditions.

[–] jeanma@lemmy.ninja 4 points 1 year ago

Sure for the possibility for every OSes to break but what I said was just a recent example, even though it's on a pretty pristine installation in term of alteration. There's so many other things where Windows and its ecosystems is a mess but I guess it is more or less forgiven because you can game on it and because that particular device you would use has the driver while on Linux it must be reverse engineered and written if not, never exist.

Anyway, my whole point is about the "just works" label which has been proven to be wrong more than I can count.

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I have the exact same issues as @jeanma@lemmy.ninja . Every single work day contains at least 10 minutes of waiting for windows to log me in and 2 login errors without exaggerating. IT have told me on numerous occasions there's nothing they can do other than reinstalling windows since the error source is very proprietary.

At this point I'm considering switching jobs just to get rid of windows.

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