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So far Lemmy is vibing. Everyone here is excited and optimistic and willing to put up with a few rough spots to be part of something.

When the Eternal September comes, which it will, how does a Lemmy instance deal with bad actors?

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[โ€“] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 40 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Their own way. If they don't control their shit, they get defederated. Such is the way. Keep your nose clean and you'll be right as rain.

But I do wonder about the possibility of two Lemmy communities, one right-wing and one left, with the right created in protest of being defederated...

Well, we can't think about that all the time, can we?

[โ€“] lorch@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Sooooo like an anti-fediverse then? Is it possible for multiple defederated instances to federate only with each other?

A forked fediverse?

Do not want!

[โ€“] god@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not really a question of whether they can or not. They already do. Sometimes, though, they have opinions that conflict with each other and they defederate each other.

But extreme right-wing communities are already a thing in Mastodon and the most extreme ones tend to get defederated (the worst offender being poa.st), and among the most defederated, they often federate with each other (you will notice that poa.st still has a "vibrant community" of instances that are ok with being offensive).

[โ€“] AnarchistArtificer 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Re: the "vibrant community"

Yeah, it's like the Nazi bar idea: that if you have a bar and there's one Nazi, you need to kick them out and show zero tolerance, otherwise they'll bring their Nazi friends and your regular patrons will leave and before long, you'll be running a Nazi bar.

The thing is, kicking the Nazi out protects your space and your community, but it doesn't stop them from finding another bar. There's always a Nazi bar somewhere.

[โ€“] god@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

I myself occasionally browse the "nazi bars" of the fediverse to get an idea of what the hell they're complaining about now. Similarly I go to the tankie places to get acquainted with which genocide they're denying today hahah, it's a fun hobby to do occasionally, too much and it gets irritating though.

[โ€“] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the Negaverse! in the most 90's cartoon villain way possible

[โ€“] lorch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

With so many goatees

[โ€“] President_Pyrus@feddit.dk 5 points 1 year ago

An instance can both make a black list and an allow list. If there are any instances on the allow list, only those instances are federated. So yeah, that is possible.

[โ€“] jon@lemmy.tf 4 points 1 year ago

Instances can choose to federate specifically with a group of other instances already. If I wanted to turn mine into a right-wing circlejerk or off the rails conspiracy group, all I have to do is find some other Lemmy instances and add them to the Allowlist, which tells my instance to only connect to those I've listed.

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