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A new survey reveals EU citizens are growing more and more US-sceptic, and think it's time for the bloc to pursue its own foreign policy and reduce ties with Washington.

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[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

everyone was fooled

Nah mate, no one was fooled. One side tried to keep the country, the other side tried to tank the country because "trans migrants"

One side won, now theyre tanking the country

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

I agree.

Both, the trans & immigrant hate was fueled by the far right & russia most probably helped. It fits.

The fooled ones, were the ones like my father. He never even cared if someone was trans. He did not refrain from making some distasteful jokes, but they were naive and almost good hearted.

Now he bursts out at least once a day, about how trans are endangering society. What shocks me is the hate, like "kill them all" "drag 'em truth the streets" and all that shit. He never was like that before.

And this is just one example of things he started like obsessing about. Reading about right wing shit on Lemmy, just to hear the same views from my father later on the phone. But he was defending those views.

Social media echo chambers seem to have a much more extreme effect on everyone.

They fell hard for the "trans migrants", "migrants take your job" and " migrants lazy", because they were bombarded with mind blowing "facts".

But that's just my opinion, what i come up with in my head, trying to understand myself why things took the wrong turn.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I dont want to assume i understand them better than you do, but having family members that are going through the same thing, it seems much more likely that theyve always been of the "us vs. them" mentallity and now theyve simply been convinced that 1. "Them" is minorities and 2. Their hate is now socially acceptable because back in 2016 we elected the epitomy of hate as a joke

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

The thing is, he never was so involved with politics. Never obsessed over anything in life.

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