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Look, if these complete morons on the Right want to vote against their self-interests and America, they are beyond help, and all I will do is keep working my a-- off to make sure people understand this.

What we have is a failure to communicate on the Left.

The truth is these people support the America-attacking blowhard because he stirs their cold blood. He makes them feel good about looking backward instead of at all the possibilities ahead. He makes them feel good about thinking they are the only thing that matters and that they have somehow been cheated out of their dark, empty lives.

They don’t want to make America better. They want to make everybody else’s lives worse.

All they are is angry, and have finally found a lewd, racist conman who can put a megaphone to their tantrums, and deal the rest of America plenty of pain. He has no goddamn answers for them or us.

What we have right now is a MASSIVE messaging problem.

From the minute the Biden Administration took power it worked like hell to tackle a global crisis that was exacerbated by the previous administration. I mean, holy s--- even infrastructure got done, and do you know who has benefited most from that? White people.

If that didn't resonate, it’s not because it didn’t happen. It’s because too many people didn’t know about it.

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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 49 points 3 days ago (18 children)

I really hate this idea that Trump supporters are just angry people that want to watch the world burn. They aren’t. They genuinely believe that he will stop things like elite pedophilia, reverse inflation, reverse wage stagnation. Many of them believe he will return Christianity to the country (which I think is the only realistic thing they believe, which in my mind is a bad thing.) They genuinely believe he will save the country. Y’all gotta stop talking about them like they just hate everyone and want the country to burn. It’s just patently wrong and tone deaf and makes you guys look insanely out of touch.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ah yes, another maga apologist. Hopefully eventually people like you will realise that this world is never going to get better while you play in the ball pit eith all the other kids. If republicans dont want to act like adults, then dont treat them like adults. Remove their agency. Ridicule them. Publically shame them every chance you get. The only chance we have of ever fixing this country is to shame the right so completely that we leave it as part of our culture that we dont stand for this bullshit.

You say "your body, my choice" and as far as im concerned you are no longer a human capable of autonomy. You have just forfeited your human rights.

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago

My sibling in Christ, if there is one thing that did not contribute to Trump winning the election, it is not enough shaming by leftists. If anything there is too much.

Committed Trumpists can't be shamed. They love it when the left try to shame them because that means they're "triggered". And as a result non-political "centrists" who "just want to grill" can't be shamed because they've got people on the one hand telling them they should be ashamed and people on the other telling them they're doing nothing wrong; in fact, they're doing great! Who do you think they'll side with?

Don't get me wrong, I am not defending either of these groups of people. However shame is ultimately only effective when you can convince someone that what they're doing is shameful, and to do that you have to bring them on side first. Yes, it sucks having to play nice and be patient with the "non-committed voter", but ultimately the right has the left outmatched both in the ability use violence and the ability to appeal to people who don't actually want to do anything.

Anyone who says “your body, my choice” is a lost cause though, feel free to punch those people all you want.

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