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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (14 children)

What is a good word to use for people who are female of any age including young children that are not old enough to be called women in addition to women?

'Women and girls' is pretty clunky when talking about something that is gender specific, but applies to all ages.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Just ask yourself if you'd use "males" in that context.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I absolutely would use males in that context. "Toxic masculinity has a detrimental affect on males of all ages" sounds perfectly fine to me because I don't know of a different label for the group and males doesn't have the same dehumanizing usage as females.

[–] NiHaDuncan@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Male is literally the same kind of word just for the opposite sex/gender; the term specifically points out the ability to produce sperm (in many dimorphic species) for the purposes of reproducing with the opposite sex. It’s literally just saying “your distinguishing characteristic is your ability to inseminate another of your species” and is just as dehumanizing.

The reason you would use it in that context is because it’s “[gender specific noun] of all ages.” Where if you were to say “boys of all ages” or “men of all ages” it would imply either all ages under 18 or all ages at or over 18.

This is the same context in which you would use female as a noun, as girl/woman implies a restricted age range, just as boy/man, when you specifically don’t want one.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Doesn't "men and boys" have exactly the same meaning though?

I don't feel deshumanized for being called a male.

Disclaimer: I don't use the noun "female" because I know some find it offensive.

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