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[–] hmonkey@lemy.lol 22 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Remember when people said they'd take "Any functional adult" over Trump? Well... That's why I still blame the voters here. They had their functional adult and didn't seize the opportunity

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 week ago (13 children)

This is what you get when "any functional adult" is the standard you hold your leaders to.

[–] hmonkey@lemy.lol 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If that was the standard Kamala would've won

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well it turns out that isn't a good enough standard to get enough people up to vote, but I did hear it a lot from a lot of active posters online.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm not convinced Kamala is a "functional adult" she never won a primary. -In fact she got less than 1% of votes in the two primaries (AK, and NH) she did run in respectively, in 2020..

[–] hmonkey@lemy.lol -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So you allowed Trump to win? Fuck you

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Get ahold of yourself. The people who “allowed” Trump to win were the DNC in general and Biden & Harris in particular. It was their campaign to lose, and they lost to a complete clown. Stop blaming anyone & everyone but the Democratic party itself.

See also downthread.

[–] hmonkey@lemy.lol -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

this u: “You let Trump win?” So which is it, did “we” “let” Trump win, or did the voters do the voting?

If we let him win, then who is the “we,“ and how did we “let” him?

If the “voters do the voting,” then I don’t think you appreciate that,

  1. The voters had no say in the Democratic primary.
  2. The US has never been and will never be a democracy, because it was born of a bourgeois revolution[1]. The wealthy, white, male, land-owning, largely slave-owning Founding Fathers constructed a bourgeois state with “checks and balances” against the “tyranny of the majority”. It was never meant to represent the majority—the working class—and it never has, despite eventually allowing women and non-whites (at least those not disenfranchised by the carceral system) to vote. [Princeton & Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy
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