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[–] Neon@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (33 children)

So many times I saw people on Lemmy saying they weren't going to vote because of [insert Reason X]

Everytime I told them they should, I was brushed off with some stupid Argument.

Well, I congratulate everyone who did that. You now live in a country headed by someone openly flirting with fascism. I really hope [Reason X] was worth it. And I really hope [Reason X] won't get worse under Trump (it will). You failed to prevent a fascist from raising to power just so you could virtue-signal.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago (14 children)

The democrats shifted right, and yet the fault is still on those that didn't vote?

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (7 children)

yes. yes, it is. Those that didn't vote failed to stop fascism from rising.

Even if you think that Democrats are too conservative, the alternative you chose and got is Trump.

Also the phrase goes "stop fascism at all costs" not "stop fascism at all costs except when the alternative has shifted a bit to the right (but in no way as far as the fascists we would be trying to stop) and now is too conservative for you"

[–] Bertuccio@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

"Vote for my shitty policies or the other guy will have shittier policies" is not a platform.

The point of a democratic republic is that elected officials enact the policies those who elect them want. If you don't offer to enact those policies you don't get elected.

Yes, non-voters were stupid to not vote for the lesser evil, but the Harris campaign violated the very basis of democracy and thought they could simply use Trump to bully people into voting for them.

Imagine a system where a fascist Boogeyman is held up every election and people reliably vote against them without regard for who they vote for. The other party could put up whatever shitty candidate they wanted whether they espouse the views of the population or not.

Not only is that not at all a fucking democracy, it was the documented strategy of the Democratic party! Except it doesn't fucking work, which they should have learned in 2016.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

The other party could put up whatever shitty candidate they wanted whether they espouse the views of the population or not.

Like genocide! Or 99% of the other candidates facist policies. Or ...

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Imagine a system where a fascist Boogeyman is held up every election and people reliably vote against them without regard for who they vote for. The other party could put up whatever shitty candidate they wanted whether they espouse the views of the population or not.

Except when the other party sees they lose 3/4 elections in a row by putting up fascist boogeymen, they will statistically stop doing that, since it’s a losing strategy. They can only keep doing that because Americans are showing them that they actually like it better than an actual human being.

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