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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (10 children)

These are mostly poorly educated or mentally handicapped people

Nonsense.

In fact, grifters will tell you that educated people are much easier to grift because they think they're too smart to be scammed.

There's a reason why Jack Abramoff was able to con so many rich people out of their money and why smart people end up in cults.

Even smart people who aren't in cults can believe very silly things, as silly as what SovCits believe. Linus Pauling thinks vitamin C is a panacea. Ray Kurzweil thinks he'll be able to upload his brain to a computer in 10 years and has thought so since the 1990s. Bobby Fischer thinks Jews control the world.

[–] Schmoo -3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Just because you can find examples of educated people falling for grifts doesn't mean most people who fall for grifts are educated. Frankly, it's absurd and completely counterintuitive. You would have to show me some hard data to prove that correlation.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I gave you multiple examples of the most prominent sovcit cases elsewhere.

[–] Schmoo 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Examples are anecdotes.

You mean like "I've known several" except with actual names and details?

But I am really amused that you are demanding data when you never provided any for your initial claim or any subsequent claims.

Physician, heal thyself.

[–] Schmoo 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, we're both making claims and using anecdotes to support them and it seems neither of us will move from our positions without stronger evidence. Your claim that most sovcits are either wealthy or educated seems absurd to me, so in a data-poor environment I'm sticking with the simpler of the two options. I'm open to changing my mind, but not with only anecdotes. If you could make a logical case for why sovcits would be mostly educated or wealthy then that could be enough, given neither of us have hard data to give.

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