They leveraged open source to compete on the console front without actually investing dev time. If he could have created a closed system for the same cost, he wouldn't have hesitated. It was nothing more than a smart business decision, not a nice favor because he likes you.

Most of the Gaben simps just throw back the same thing, "well, they aren't as bad as microsoft".

Mussolini wasn't as bad as Hitler, can you image defending him though? Stop bootlicking billionaires.

I'm also not saying Microsoft is better, I'm saying they are all in the same club and they all suck.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (13 children)

They leveraged open source to compete on the console front without actually investing dev time.

This is just false.

Valve has funded a lot of extra work though to get things like DXVK and VKD3D-Proton for the translation from Direct3D to Vulkan into a state where performance can be really great! Valve also funds work on Linux graphics drivers, Linux kernel work and the list goes on.

reference

The included improvements to Wine have been designed and funded by Valve, in a joint development effort with CodeWeavers. Here are some examples of what we've been working on together since 2016:

vkd3d, the Direct3D 12 implementation based on Vulkan

The OpenVR and Steamworks native API bridges

Many wined3d performance and functionality fixes for Direct3D 9 and Direct3D 11

Overhauled fullscreen and gamepad support

The "esync" patchset, for multi-threaded performance improvements

Modifications to Wine are submitted upstream if they're compatible with the goals and requirements of the larger Wine project; as a result, Wine users have been benefiting from parts of this work for over a year now. The rest is available as part of our source code repository for Proton and its modules.

In addition to that, we've been supporting the development of DXVK, the Direct3D 11 implementation based on Vulkan; the nature of this support includes:

Employing the DXVK developer in our open-source graphics group since February 2018

Providing direct support from our open-source graphics group to fix Mesa driver issues affecting DXVK, and provide prototype implementations of brand new Vulkan features to improve DXVK functionality

Working with our partners over at Khronos, NVIDIA, Intel and AMD to coordinate Vulkan feature and driver support

from Valve's original Proton announcement

You should try doing some research before making such claims. Valve has been directly cooperating with, contributing to, and financially supporting several open source projects related to gaming since at least 2016.

[+] Grimy@lemmy.world -13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (12 children)

Valve had 71 peoples working in their steam division in 2021. 31 where admin so that leaves 40 people for all their hardware. I'm going to take a wild guess and say maybe 3 to 5 were working on things linux related.

Edit: They had 79 in 2021 for Steam, and 41 for hardware

I'd call that leveraging at that amount of people, for a company that brings in an estimated 6.5 billion a year, and the fact that most of the code was already there.

Edit: They brought in 10 billion in 2021 (covid helped)

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad linux got a boost out of it but there's no doubt in my mind he would have built a private OS if it could be done with 5 people. It was a bargain for him, it wasn't a favor.

[–] null 8 points 1 month ago

Just so we're clear here -- you pulled your original numbers out of nowhere, but made them oddly specific (71) to give the impression that you were citing an actual source.

That is hilariously pathetic.

And barely even matters since you're ignoring 90% of the comment you replied to (financing and partnerships).

Just really paints a picture of how boring, basic, and uninformed your opinion is, for all the cockiness you came in here with.

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