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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (10 children)

In what way? Conservativism is a branch of Liberalism, just like Progressivism. They are all under the Capitalist umbrella of Liberalism. The opposite, therefore, is Socialism.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Congratulations, you have successfully redefined imprtant words in a way that makes your understanding of them fundamentally incomoatible with other people's, rendering clear communication impossible.

I don't know why this was your goal, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming it was intentional, because the only alternative is that you are less intelligent than a particularly dense house plant.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Never redefined any of it. Liberalism is the ideology supporting Capitalism, Progressivism is the left side of liberalism and conservativism is the right side. Progressives still support Capitalism, same with conservatives.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean it isn't. Progressivism only seems to exist as a word in America, because the USA has the red scares, and conflates communism and socialism, and so are scared of the phrase and had to reinvent their own.

In Europe, you have Conservatives (right wing market, socially conservative), Liberals (free market, but with positivity towards social reforms). Socialism or Democratic Socialism (positive social reforms, state involvement, but with democracy). Communism (economic distribution but more autocratic), and Social Democratic (somewhere between Liberal and Democratic Socialist). Socialism is where you're willing to consider the state getting involved in wealth redistribution.

It's better you understand political philosophy and how it is used and applies around the world to truly understand it. You cannot understand the spectrum, if you cannot zoom out from the Overton window.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago

That's not what Socialism and Communism are, though. Democratic Socialism itself is a nebulous and meaningless term.

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