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[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (25 children)

Huh? On non-gamepad games (i.e. Dark Souls is an example of a gamepad game) Keyboard is completely fine. I wouldn't have it any other way.

This is the first time in my life I've ever heard this opinion lol.

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 12 points 1 month ago (19 children)

Notice, that I didn't say it's impossible to use KB for gaming, I just said (or implied) that it's not optimal. It's not good, it's just what we have and what we are used to, and there's a lot of room for improvement. And I say this as a PC gamer of 30+ years. So much so that when I lay my hand on a keyboard it automatically assumes the WASD position, even if I intend to type.

And I'm glad that I brought this perspective to your attention, because we often don't question what we are used to since childhood. Hopefully, these discussions will eventually bring us something better, that we have not yet thought of.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)

It is optimal though. I don't understand why you are saying it's not? Aiming with a mouse is 9 million % more effective than thumbsticks. Like that's reality. If you had two equal skilled teams, one on controllers, and one on kb/m (and it's a first person shooter), the kb/m gang will win like 99% of the time just based on that.

You're just taking your own opinion about kb/m and assuming that it applies to the masses. It doesn't. Vast majority of people would agree with me. Kb/m is better for non-controller games.

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Per their original comment, they aren't saying mouse is bad. Their problem is with the keyboard.

… we merely tolerate keyboard as a gaming input device because of the precision that mouse provides

Why are you bringing up the mouse again?

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I also disagree with the keyboard comment. I see no issue with it and I don't know what else would be better when combined with the mouse.

[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

A lack of analog controls is definitely an issue. Having digital buttons on keys that are either 100% on or off loses a ton of fine control.

Playing GTA and need to make a slight left while driving? On a gamepad you just slightly tilt the stick left to make a smooth turn. On keyboard you have to do a bunch of short little taps on A (and D when you inevitably oversteer) to stop yourself from jerking the wheel left.

I remember really wanting a Logitech G13 when they came out but I could never justify spending the money on one.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

For movement I would take something like a HOTAS over keyboard. For example in games with multiple movement speeds finding the right speed is rather cumbersome on keyboard because the key press is an on/off and not a scale.

Similarly on keyboard movement is restricted to 8 directions. If you need to move in some other direction most people actually use a mouse to compensate for the lack of movement options because it's too cumbersome with a keyboard.

There are benefits to using keyboards but there are places where you can use something better. Analogue input simply gives better movement options.

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