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[–] aulin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Wait. I thought they were saying it's annoying that there are now USB-C outlets replacing USB-A, which would be a waste. They actually want USB-C outlets?! I'd guess at least half of all USB-C cables are USB-A to USB-C. There's absolutely no reason to switch from A-outlets.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (13 children)

USB-c are more convenient and have a wider range of uses. We should be moving to that for everything.

Actually I was disappointed last year …. After reading for so long that Apple was the last remaining holdout for usb-c, I switched my phone and watch, and have been wondering where everyone else is. Why is it still the minority to find USB-C power strips and chargers and power banks and outlets and random devices? In my case, it means I don’t have a clean switch from Lightning to USB-C but now have to buy legacy cables too

[–] aulin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (10 children)

USB-c are more convenient and have a wider range of uses.

How? Since USB-C has been around for so long, A-C cables have been the norm from the start. Everyone has them already. I don't see the downside.

[–] Davidjjdj@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You cant use USB PD with USB A

[–] aulin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I had to look up what that means. Does it really matter that much? We have fast chargers using A-C cables for phones since far back. Is PD that much better?

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

Is PD that much better?

Yes, it really is. The USB spec for Type A connectors is 5V @ 1.5A for a max energy output of 7.5W. USB PD 3.0 (which requires the Type C connector) specs for 5V @ 3A (15W), but also provides additional optional mixes of 9V @ 3A (27W), 15V @ 3A (45W), 20V @ 3A (60W), and 20V @ 5A (100W). Adding to this, there is also now USB PD 3.1 EPR (Extended Power Range) which adds 28V @ 5A (140W), 36V @ 5A (180W), and 48V @ 5A (240W).

So, 7.5W of available power vs up to 240W (supposing device and cable support), plus flexibility on negotiated power. This means that there is far more energy available to charge faster and the ability to power many more types of devices that require different voltages.

But wait, there's more. USB PD is also used to enable negotiation of USB Alternate Modes. Currently, only Thunderbolt, MHL, and DisplayPort alt modes are maintained but that's still pretty awesome.

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