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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 248 points 1 month ago (45 children)

Gosh, imagine that... the party that wants to turn women into forced breeders isn't popular with the people they want to turn into forced breeders.

The actually surprising shift is that Gen Z men are more conservative and less likely to identify as supporting feminists than Millenials.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I think those stories were a little overblown. They're less likely to be feminists but that doesn't mean they're more conservative. The IPSOS study is full of loaded questions and nothing to actually nail down what men think of women's rights. Just feel stuff like, "are you a feminist? Has women's rights gone too far in your country? Are men asked to do too much?"

What they needed to ask was actual policy questions, "should women receive the same pay as men? Should women be able to hold office and work jobs? Are there jobs that should be off limits to women?"

I'm willing to bet you'll find more gen Z answering yes yes no, while also believing the feminist movement has gone too far.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's because it's not the same feminist movement as it was when millennials were gen z's age.

The last questions are what feminism used to be (what millennials liked). Nowadays, however, feminism is plagued by not-feminist people, that instead of wanting equality want women superiority. That's the feminism gen z knows about, and the men don't like it. That's also the reason they answer "no" to "are you a feminist?" But they support actual feminist policies. The definition of feminism has changed.

EDIT: just for reference: my county (Spain) recently put porn under a passport with limited uses per month. Why did they do that? They claim feminism. Does that sound like feminism to you?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Like most ideologies and movements there are factions. And I do get that most people don't look close or just don't care enough to see them. But what you're describing is militant feminism. And even normal feminists don't like militant feminists. At the same time, traditionalists attempt to paint the entire movement as militant.

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