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[–] i_love_FFT@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 months ago (18 children)

In Canada, drinking more than 3 drinks per week is medically considered "high alcohol use" for a woman... (6 for a man). This limit keeps getting lower year after year

If this can prevent you from getting organ transplants, then it encourages lying to your medical doctor about your current habits... That lady was not considered alcoholic, she just used alcohol in greater amount than the limit considered acceptable by doctors.

Latest stats show that almost 4 out of 5 people has exceeds that limit at some point in their life. This woman died only because she was honest with her doctor about her alcohol use. (Note that the article says her partner was a compatible donor but the system refused to accept him because she used alcohol. It's not about lacking donors.)

[–] z00s@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

The only genuine hint to the real reason of the refusal was "minimal abstinence outside of hospital".

Let me ask you bud, if you needed a liver transplant to continue living, would you have even one drink per week, or would you just quit completely?

Very biased article.

Plus, regardless of her husband being compatible, it still costs the state tens of thousands for the operation. In no way would it be ethical to put a new liver in someone who refuses to completely abstain from alcohol.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

That's absurd. Refusing someone a transplant because they used to drink more than 3 drinks a week before they knew they even had liver problems is completely absurd. Calling her an alcoholic for that is even more absurd. What in the world are these people or you thinking?

[–] racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are you on purpose missing the point?

The point the person you replied to made is that she didn't completely stop drinking alcohol once she was diagnosed to have a terminal liver disease due to alcohol use.

So first of all, she must have drank a lot more than 3 drinks a week to have terminal liver disease in her 30s that's due to alcohol (yes, all of that is in the article)

But the issue is she didn't stop drinking after being diagnosed, she reduced her consumption but didn't stop it.

If any of the above is incorrect, feel free to correct us, but making a point that's completely missing the facts that are being talked about here doesn't add anything to the discussion.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

The first point is correct. The second one is shown to be wrong in the second paragraph.

The issue here is you need to have stopped 6 months or more before, and she was only diagnosed 5 months before she died.

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