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[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (13 children)

Can we, for once, separate the art from the artist? It is possible to enjoy something created by an absolute bastard without endorsing their shitty behavior. Lots of people play Call of Cthulhu without endorsing eugenics. Or Mission Impossible without supporting Scientology. Can I still watch Emma knowing Gwyneth Paltrow sells vagina rocks to gullible women and the movie was produced by Harvey Weinstein? Absolutely. It's a gem.

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Of course, if it sucked, that's different

Edit: the main creative force continuing to profit from production/distribution is a fair point. There's nuance to be had here

[–] Vesker@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If Gaiman wasn't still alive getting rich off his art, then maybe. But while they're still alive, I'd rather not celebrate or consume the art created by people like Polanski, Weinstein, Rowling, and Gaiman.

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you boycott everything produced by the Weinsteins? It's a big catalogue, of which Harvey has more involvement in some than others. Polanski I get, he continues to produce new works after his gross behavior came to light. By the way, my question below is partly inspired by Polanski's continued acceptance in Hollywood…

Honest question, and this comes from a place of genuine good faith:

Where do you draw the line? Hollywood is rife with abuse. SA of women, men, and minors. Toxic work environments. Labor abuses. It's easy when there's a single point that one can direct their anger towards. Neil Gaiman, J.K. Rowling, Harvey Weinstein, etc. And I'm not advocating that abuse in any form, once brought to light, should be ignored because others are getting away with it. But when it comes to boycotts, where is the line? It's easy for me, I just pirate everything and directly support the artists I'm interested in supporting. But I'd like your perspective

I'm gonna ask a couple of other commenters in this thread as well, because I'm curious

[–] Vesker@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

That's a valid question and I'll try to give you an honest answer. It's certainly easier to boycott works of specific actors, writers, or directors, than it is producers, though I try. I have undoubtedly watched movies from Weinstein's production company without realizing, as you noted, his catalogue is enormous. Though if I'm aware of Weinstein's involvement in a project beforehand, then I try to steer clear.

I guess I boycott on a case-by-case basis. It's a lot harder to boycott full production companies than it is individuals.

That being said, there's a reason I haven't watched Chinatown despite hearing how great it is, or Shakespeare in Love, or American Beauty, etc. It's also why I lost complete interest in Harry Potter and ignored Hogwarts Legacy. And going back to Neil Gaiman, I have several of his books, comics, and enjoyed most of his film and TV adaptations, but now thinking about any of his work leaves an unpleasant taste in my mouth.

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