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"Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the track of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened." - Dwight D. Eisenhower 1945

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[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

With the power of generative AI and MAGA chucklefucks, now some bastard will just claim its a deepfake or a deepstate.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

It sucks, and we're not ready for it.

One reason we know that the moon landings were real is that the technology to fake them simply didn't exist in the 1960s. They didn't even have video tape back then, let alone computer graphics. Add to that the fact that almost everybody in the US got their news from one of 3 TV networks, or from newspapers that actually cared about and could afford to do real journalism. That means that when people saw the moon landings they knew they were witnessing something real. It was unfortunately also easy to cover up real things (like MK Ultra) when you only had to deal with 3 TV networks.

These days, especially for Americans, there are no authoritative sources of truth. (Australia has ABC, Britain has BBC, Canada has CBC, but the US has no not-for-profit news source that doesn't have to worry about pleasing advertisers). Add to that that every kind of media is subject to "deepfakes" and other kinds of manipulation.

And, this now affects historical events. When people in 1969 witnessed the moon landing, almost nobody thought it was fake. In 1969 it would have been relatively easy to remove almost any doubts anybody might have. But, memories are faulty and it's so easy to create fake evidence, that now even people who were alive and watching it live when the moon landing happened are now starting to doubt it.

In courts, we require evidence of various kinds because we know how unreliable people's memories are. But, it feels like we're heading for a future where your own memories may be more reliable than any research you're able to do. And, we're just not ready for that post-truth world.

[–] WilderSeek@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

My grandmother was on the ship that picked up the capsule from the first moon landing.

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