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[–] Vlixz@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Maybe a really dumb question and I'm not from the US but why did Hilary lose in 2016 when she had more votes than Donald Trump? That doesn't really make any sense to me

[–] LMagicalus@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Because we have this stupid thing called the electoral college. Basically, each state has a certain number of votes, based (roughly) on population (its a whole other issue), and the states' votes are cast for whoever won the most votes within their state (barring rogue electors and the few states that use proportional representation for votes.) Theres a total of 538 votes, and all that matters is winning more than half of them. This has made the winner of the popular vote lose the election 5 times (though in 1824, it went to the house of representatives for a final decision because no one had a majority.)

To summarize: not a dumb question, VERY dumb answer.

[–] Vlixz@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What a weird system! Is there a specific reason why the US decided to do elections this way instead of just using the normal tallied vote count? This just adds a huge layer of complexity to the elections - you'd think they'd want to keep it as transparent and simple as possible.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

The copout answer is "Back in the day it made it easier to do federal elections since the US is so big" afaik

Tho really it's just hard to change, the democrats are lazy/don't wanna rock the boat, and the republicans benefit from it and are also evil

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