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President Biden said he is "not confident at all" that there will be a peaceful transfer of power in January 2025 if former President Donald Trump is defeated.

"He means what he says. We don't take him seriously. He means it. All the stuff about 'If we lose, there'll be a bloodbath, it'll have been a stolen [election],'" Mr. Biden told CBS News chief election and campaign correspondent Robert Costa in his first sit-down interview since announcing he was dropping out of the 2024 presidential race and endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris for the Democratic nomination. The interview will air on "CBS News Sunday Morning" on Sunday, Aug. 11.

"Look what they're trying to do now in the local election districts where people count the votes," said Mr. Biden. Repeating a familiar maxim about elections and democracy, the president said, "You can't love your country only when you win."

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[–] Netrunner@programming.dev 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

I love all the closet right wingers thinking some fat ass country loving civilians with guns is going to overtake a country by itself.

The only reason anything happened last time is that agent orange was facilitating the insurrection from the inside. Now its just a bunch of idiots who maybe have guns.

So... America?

Whatever, just get the military ready in case they try.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I appreciate the nonchalance but the help agent orange offered from the inside was calling off some guards for a little bit and mostly just not making a speech telling his fans to calm down. The fact is that January 6th was a pretty disorganized protest that turned into a riot due to a handful of instigators and what we discovered is that the capitol building is not routinely well protected and only avoided riots like this because they hadn't happened.

Which is a good thing. Public institutions should be kept safe because they serve the people well enough that no one wants to take them over. Not because they employ an overwhelming police force to keep the public out. (The original intent was that citizens would be able to just walk around most of these buildings if they wanted to see the government functioning, imagine that eh?)

Now, obviously, DC is going to be on lockdown during inauguration day (as it should be) with a lot more military/police presence. But my point is that if an actually semi-organized militia had been there on Jan 6th with just a few more pistols and some designated leaders and organizers, they would have easily made it into the capitol even if trump had actually done everything to stop them. They would have been massacred in the resulting conflict as the US military sent its full force at them ofc but it would have been a much more consequential day.

This isn't me going to bat for anyone, the right wing militias are pitiful both in numbers and training. It's just that I think the potential for danger and bloodshed when these guys finally snap and make their desperate bid for attention will be a little more violent than I see people seem to think.

[–] Netrunner@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You know, during the Baltimore riot, the rioters who were destroying shit, killed a few people, etc all were content to riot. Up until the APC's and the military showed up, it stopped within minutes. Source: I saw it happen.

Once you see what a Humvee and APC tank squadron looks like looks like, your shitty AR15 isn't going to make you feel strong. What are you going to do, randomly shoot into a crowd of other Trump idiots? Rush the whitehouse with guns? Who will be in there this time?

What if they got inside and it was just the army standing inside? What then? Are they randomly going to shoot at the army? Whats the game plan, because that would be a first.

You have to think that this time we know, and with preparation it won't be an issue. Just be smart about it, because we already know about the last coup attempt.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You... Didn't read my post. I wonder what exactly you assumed I said?

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago

I think you're not considering what a bunch of cowardly giant man babies they all are.

Remember who when one of them got shot they started yelling "Active shooter!" when it was a fucking SS agent or cop or something who fired the shot?

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