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[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 38 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (47 children)

If you're worried about making the cab bigger and comfier, you don't need a truck.

There are no arguments to this and no one has a point against me here. If cab space is the concern, you need a minivan or SUV.

Blanket statement with impunity incoming. Combining these vehicles is a bad idea. For safety and efficiency. If you think this is a good idea in any possible way, you're simply incorrect.

You're just buying an SUV with a truck bed attached because your little balls say you want a "manly" vehicle.

You wouldn't put a hitch on a moped. Don't put a bed on a SUV.

Extending the length of a vehicle past the point where a hitch makes it longer than a parking space should be a "first offense your company is due down immediately" kind of offense first of all. The amount of these hitches blocking sidewalks and handicap accessibility spaces is absolutely bonkers.

Why don't we have a president type of office that doesn't mess with politics or international affairs, they just have nationwide power for common sense stuff like banning pickups simply being used as passenger vehicles, curbing attempts to overgrow parking spaces, and probably a bunch of other stuff too.

Also, I have a great idea for a whole new tax. :)

Let's make an industry out of dining these people to the point where only businesses use trucks. Regular people can rent them easily enough to move between apartments or what have you, but these should never have been general use daily drivers.

Let's just crush and compact the entire pickup truck industry to an incredibly tiny fraction of what it is now.

[–] argueswithidiots@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Stating in your argument "there are no arguments to this" highlights up front how close-minded you are to discussion on the subject. It's perfectly acceptable to discuss things you strongly believe in while still allowing yourself to be open-minded about opposing views. In fact, I would say it is required for honest discourse to occur.

In my personal experience, I have one of these vehicles with a comfortable and spacious cab. It allows me to have one vehicle for all the tasks that come with a sheep and pig farm, and also allows us to transport our large family comfortably to and fro. I would like my family to be comfortable while riding in our vehicle, which is equally able to perform various work functions related to farming and transport a family. Why would we purchase and maintain two separate vehicles for these purposes when a single option exists?

[–] ElCrusher@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Corn, wheat, and other farmers have separate vehicles to accomplish the tasks necessary for their farms, e.g. a combine harvester, seeder, iriggator, etc. I know they also have large spacious trucks as well, but my point is that it is feasible to expect an agricultural business owner, or any buisness owner, to have different commercial equipment for different tasks related to their industry. Besides, whereas all the people who need pickups for their business have them, not all pickup owners need their vehicles for business. I see many, many large pickups parked in residential areas of the city and around the suburbs. The closest most of those people get to agribusiness is going to the grocery store. That's the second point, if you don't absolutely need a large truck for business, you shouldn't use one for your everyday driver. Imagine if big rigs were affordable for most everyone and people used them for daily driving.

[–] argueswithidiots@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While I agree that farmers can have specialized vehicles for different tasks, not all do. We farm sheep, pigs, chickens, and ducks and do not have specialized equipment. We don't even have a tractor. I also don't disagree that people who don't have a use for trucks don't need them, but I wouldn't go to far as to say they shouldn't have them. While objectively worse for the environment than a vehicle more suitable to their lifestyles, it's a slippery slope (as we've seen) once we start legislating morality.

Bottom line: if we didn't operate a farm business, we wouldn't have a need for or the desire to have a large truck. More likely, any truck at all. We certainly wouldn't have one to park in the driveway of the suburban house we would probably live in. It's just impractical, but not everyone is gifted with innate pragmatism.

[–] rekorse@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Laws are legislating morality. What else would they be?

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago

commonly held misconception, laws in fact just spontaneously come into existence and we have no choice but to follow and enforce them (except for rich people, who are inherently better people and thus are able to disobey the law without consequence)

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