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This magazine is dedicated to discussions on the federated social networking ecosystem, which includes decentralized and open-source social media platforms. Whether you are a user, developer, or simply interested in the concept of decentralized social media, this is the place for you. Here you can share your knowledge, ask questions, and engage in discussions on topics such as the benefits and challenges of decentralized social media, new and existing federated platforms, and more. From the latest developments and trends to ethical considerations and the future of federated social media, this category covers a wide range of topics related to the Fediverse.

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So, how's your 2023 bingo? I feel like I'm going to win soon.

#fediverse

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Look, I'm no artist at the best of times....

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Another fediverse newbie mucking about. Since joining I've been digging in and learning as I go, trying to determine what best suits how I'd like to interface everything. I am not, however, super well versed in all the ins and outs of this system yet. I'm not the most tech savvy person to be honest.

I've enjoyed this kbin instance so far. No complaints considering how new it is and how strained it got under the new user load. Grateful for the work that's been put in to keep things whirring. If everything keeps going the way it has I'll be sticking around. Though I have considered signing up to a different platform as well to use for more personal blogging, or interaction with closer friends and associates. I think I'm leaning toward Hubzilla for this.

The sorting tools used to filter your incoming feed as well as group contact sorting to control who sees what from what I'd be posting seems like it'd get me a long way toward how I envision wanting to use a macroblogger. There's a whole host of features I'd probably never use besides. The account mirror and syncing feature seems pretty clutch.

If this ability to compartmentalize everything works the way I think I'm understanding it, there's less a reason to even create multiple profiles across different platforms even if the intended usage between a link aggregate/subforum platform like kbin and a macroblogging platform are different. I guess you'd need a profile to moderate a magazine/community on a certain instance, but I'm not seeing much beyond that.

I know it doesn't operate entirely (primarily even?) on the ActivityPub protocol, but it sounds like it's integrated with with all the platforms operating on ActivityPub./?

Has anybody here tried it out? Are there inherent downsides? Anything I'm not considering that I ought to be? Any type of critical failure or a specific reason Hubzilla hasn't taken off despite offering what looks to be a pretty elaborate feature set?

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With the upcoming #meta #Project92 Fediverse service, this is a plan to fight smarter in how to both protect our users, and how to be better battle plan to protect the Open Social Web.

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I've registered with kbin and lemmy.world. I gotta say I'm diggin kbin a little more. The layout is familiar and the fact that it federates with other servers makes it so I can read and comment on lemmy posts anyway. Which means that it doesn't matter that I like kbin over lemmy! I can read the same content!

#fediverse

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Hey all. I made a blue theme (before) for Kbin that anyone can use.

To use it -

  1. Make sure you have the dark theme selected on KBIN first (Optionally, click here to enable the dark theme on Kbin)
  2. Install the chrome/brave extension called 'User JavaScript and CSS'. There are other extensions in different browsers that do the same thing, just search for custom CSS you'll see similar extensions that do the same thing.
  3. Add a new site (kbin.social) in the extension settings, and apply this CSS code.

Imgur Album with both images for comparison ..

It does more than just change the colors as you can see. The layout is a little more collapsed down like old reddit. A lot of people like myself prefer that style of layout.

If it doesn't appear to enable, just reload kbin after you enable it.

#fediverse

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We live in a world where 500+ refugees just drowned off the coast of
Greece while the global north took photos from afar and just let it happen.

We live in a world where even a democratic president in the US is shutting the doors to asylum seekers in the U.S. and not receiving any significant political blowback for it.

We aren't refugees for having to find a new website.

I am NOT saying this to scold people or to talk condescendingly down from some high horse as if I am more righteous than others, I just don't want this word to catch on because there is so much pain and suffering happening to refugees in this world.

Imagine you were a refugee and you joined the fediverse because you were curious about it and the first thing you saw was people calling themselves refugees for having to... make an account on a new website. Would you feel welcome or like this place was for you?

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Concerning the current debate on Meta, I‘m a bit concerned over where I should make my home. I don‘t want corporations to intrude and ruin my just newly found space of freedom. They would just offer "help" and then centralise and privatise and infest it with ads, data collection and profit motive. I need to search for the right instance to combat that.

The place is huge though and I don‘t know where to start my search, I don‘t even know the stance of the kbin admin yet.

So I come to you good people to ask if you can recommend any instance where the owner has made public a strong and clear anti-corporation stance?

Edit: In case anyone stumbles on this, I found two promising instances by myself so far:

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/

The r/piracy instance, with the admin saying he is anarchist and piracy being the natural enemy of both corporations and governments, it seems likely to take such stance.

https://slrpnk.net/

"Solarpunk" instance, with part of their manifesto reading:

Solarpunk wants to counter the scenarios of a dying earth, an insuperable gap between rich and poor, and a society controlled by corporations. Not in hundreds of years, but within reach.

Much more positive than my doomer brain is used to, but I dig it! A lot!

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Especially some kbin instances...

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The Fediverse must be very careful to avoid getting branded as the "alternative to X". In my experience, platforms that have historically branded themselves as "alternative to" or "anti-" have generally not done well. Learned this from the last Reddit exodus: let's make this one different!

How can this time be different?

Join real communities, contribute real content.

Sorry, but low-effort image macros and meta-posting about how much everyone hates Reddit (yes, yes, u/spez sucks, carry on) is not a recipe for a successful platform. It doesn't hurt, but it doesn't really help either.

This time, the exodus appears to have been large enough to start disrupting Google search, at least anecdotally. This is an opportunity for the Fediverse: now is the time to create searchable content, to ask the questions that people are asking search engines, and to engage in real communities.

Here's my call to action:

  1. Find 1 new community on any Lemmy/Kbin/etc. and make a post/article. Not a low-effort post, but something that a search engine would pick up on.
  2. Comment when you've done so, with a link to the post.
  3. Then, go and comment on someone else's post that they've commented.

Let's make the Fediverse succeed!


Here are some options for Kbin communities, but feel free to pick others on other instances as well!

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Our passion project has relaunched, with all kinds of new coverage for the federated web.

This project is alive again, publishing some of the only journalism around dedicated solely to the Fediverse.

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And got a straightforward no as a response XD

Kbin link

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I see people talk about fediverse alternatives to the big names, but the social network I want to see have a fediverse equivalent the most would be nintendo wii u's Miiverse! Miiverse was a strange social network, where you could post images, chat, and even create doodles in. Instead of likes, or dislikes, there was "yeahs". Did not last past the wii u. While there have been miiverse alternatives in the years since, none of them quite caught traction, perhaps maybe a federated version could fix that?

Examples

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I want to try #WordPress with #ActivityPub plugin to know how they actually works with #Kbin.
If it works well, every creators caged in big company's SNS would want to do so. #fediverse

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Hi @ernest, do you have any plans to defederate kbin from bot communities? This could explode at any moment spamming every single instance that is not protected: https://kbin.social/m/lemmy@lemmy.ml/t/76632/Almost-90-of-the-accounts-on-lemmy-are-now-bot

#fediverse

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Test Post (kbin.social)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by thehalf13@kbin.social to c/fediverse@kbin.social
 
 

Feel free to ignore this, this is a test post as I navigate and learn kbin. I like the fact that I can create a post for any magazine from anywhere, though I do wish that the Magazines themselves had a create a post option.

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This is a post.
How long
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Tired already?

Code snippet

#!/bin/bash

function hello () {
echo "hello"
}

hello

end of code snippet.

Now let's see what a post looks like.
I wonder if anyone will ever see it.
There is really not much to see here.
If you missed it then nothing bad will happen.

Just kicking the tires folks.

#fediverse

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Just kicking the tires on this thing.
Trying to see if there is a limit on the size of messages.
Also trying to see if each message has it's own web address (like Mastodon).
What does the font look like?
Is this stuff markdown material?

How about a code snippet?

#!/bin/bash

bash the final frontier: where no dos-derivative mind-slave

has gone before.

These are the voyages of someone, no one has ever

heard of, who is charting a bold new multi-year campaign to

free the minds of billions serving the yacht-masters.

function display_hello () {
local greeting="hello"
echo "$greeting"
}

display_hello

Doubtful that this is the longest bash hello world script that

anyone has ever seen before.

Not sure what the record is.

Now this file (and account) can be deleted as this user is just kicking the tires.

Another platform where I can post stuff without having to be concerned with people reading it.

Can someone get banned from this platform for disrespecting the dos-derivative yacht-masters? Let's find out.

If this post is still on this platform 2023-6-24 then it might be a yacht-master free zone.

Other wise, it's not much better than #birdsite or #meta or #reddit for that matter.

OK this post is long enough.

Let's see what the code snippet looks like.

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The content hosted on Youtube cannot be 100% hosted legally. It is impossible to believe that you can find a full album of Pink Floyd hosted on Youtube and that's a legal thing.

This is an extract from the support page of Google:

Videos removed or blocked due to YouTube's contractual obligations

YouTube enters into agreements with certain music copyright owners to allow use of their sound recordings and musical compositions.

What is the bottom line here? Is Youtube big enough to be allowed to publish full albums of Pink Floyd? Or does Youtube pay a dime to Universal so they are allowed to publish the audio content?

My question is: If Youtube can go away Scot's free with this, why can't the fediverse? If we start to host massive video/audio content, what will happen to the fediverse?

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How to sign into any of the fediverse lemmy site on desktop?
It appears to continiously load at the login page after entering credentials.

#fediverse

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This is Fosstodon's official stance on the whole Facebook joining the Fediverse debacle.

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I originally posted this in m/kbinMeta: https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/73476/How-do-kbin-instances-and-all-aggregator-protocols-work-to

Not sure what's the etiquette on splitting discussions, but fwiw here's the key para from my post:

I'm bringing this over to the kbin side because of the three concerns: political (extend, embrace, extinguish playbook means standards-setting work will be under threat of an eventual oligopoly); privacy (data scraping and surveillance capitalism is a known thing, legal or otherwise); and infrastructure (the full blast of new Threads accounts and the way AP and esp Masto does JSON will mean the perpetual fetching will overwhelm smaller instances) - the most particular for threadiverse is on technical capacity.

most instances are still finding their feet. What measures are already in place short of defed to help admins not get overwhelmed? What measures are being worked on?

kbin does scraping posts very well. Even untagged posts end up here on kbin.social because the 'random' magazine was created. What can instances do to not become a risk vector for at-risk persons who probably didn't realize this protocol (that's not even a year old) has been quietly slurping their posts in machine-readable forms all this time?

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Hey All,
I’m an (old 😉) IT guy, very excited by the #fediverse and trying to find my way amongst various services.

As an example, I started gathering topics I like on a Lemmy account. Then, I got tempted to create different accounts on smaller instances and try out kbin.

I’d love that my « subscriptions » follow me, so that I don’t have to scan all my « magazines » and re-register from everywhere.

Can someone kindly help me on how I can achieve that? Apologies if the question is naive, but given the decentralised nature of those services, shouldn’t each user have a « local » trace of what they follow (for example on a local app), no matter the service, so that they get « their view », their « window » on the #fediverse?

Many thanks for the #fedihelp and again my apologies for the probably basic questions!

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Apologies in advance if I am using the wrong terms or posting the wrong way.

Onto my question, I see that despite being on kbin.social, I see articles for lemmy.world and other platforms on this site. Did the admins of each instance configure this, or does it occur because they are all public and each instance fetches data from everywhere else?

The reason I'm curious is because I'm wondering about building a read-only instance for myself. Hosting an instance of kbin/lemmy/etc comes with a lot of extra functionality (users management, communities, content uploads, etc), along with associated costs (storage, scaling). I imagine having a instance that simply reads other federated instances, caches their posts/comments temporarily, with minimal storage for configuration (subscribed topics/people/etc).

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