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Yup! It took them like 10+ years before they managed to get a presidential candidate too. but they immediately got into the legislative wings, it was already well underway in Bush's second term. Hell, they were powerful enough to thrust Palin on McCain when he ran.

The people who say this can’t exist because of FPTP are right… but only for the presidency.

In every other part of government, extra parties are very viable. Even more so if they get into legislation and prove an ability to establish coalitions. The whole dynamic of elections can change in the House every 2 years.

I’m sick and tired of this stance because Republicans have done it with Libertarians and “quiet conservative” Independents for the last decade.

It’s not the Greens because they don’t take local or legislative elections seriously. But a pro worker party that backed up the right legislation would be amazing.

These people are all whooshing hard on what you said. They can't even imagine non-scold comments anymore.

That is exactly what they just said.

Good, eventually. Bad, at first.

It seems that way because I chose to say “you”, which is my bad. I meant it in the broader sense though, most of us are choosing not to sleep with the rest of us, most of the time.

There is no added exclusion to that just because some of us become more firm in refusing to, and give reasons why.

It most certainly doesn’t exclude anyone unless you think someone refusing to have sex with you is an act of exclusion.

Most of all of us are refusing to have sex with you at this very moment.

Would you mind saying what you mean here? I’d like for you to explain your thought a little more.

Ever wonder about how the rallies were really low attendance but Kamala’s were bumping? What if you had two entire social networks that were at a fever pitch for months, non stop? How about three? Just three 24/7 online rallies, unending, with most of America logged on and posting every single day?

It doesn’t seem generalized at all to me.

• A series of laws are passed that make this thing riskier.
• Do less of the risky thing.
• Make it clear why.

What’s the problem?

It’s also worth mentioning that turnout percentage wise, 12m fewer votes is just 6-7%, and a turnout swing of that size is perfectly normal

Yeah, this is a big problem as well. I don’t want to make it seem like Republicans are somehow good for workers. They’re way worse. They will devastate the working class in the coming years.

I’m saying that it doesn’t seem to workers like there IS a party that is pro worker. And to be honest, “isn’t as bad for workers” isn’t the same as “pro worker”. So I think that if workers don’t feel like Democrats or Republicans are on their side, that seems perfectly rational to me.