russjr08

joined 2 years ago

Looks great! I appreciate your hard work that you've put into Summit!

Just to note in general to add onto this, it may take a couple of days for instances to update once 0.19.5 comes out - especially since I believe AFAIK it can break third party applications using the API if they're not updated. So some instances may wait for the bigger apps to update, before they update.

And of course, in general most instances like to test the update on say, a replica, just to ensure that there is no breakage during an update.

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Officially it will release with GNOME, but others might make a KDE spin.

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't suppose you've tried the "DJ" feature? It's usually pretty good for me, but of course your mileage may vary.

I've run into the same problem of the shuffle (and "smart" shuffle) just plays the exact same thing all the time, even in a playlist with thousands of songs. Tried out YouTube music for a while, and it's not much better. So I'll be interested in what others say here.

The best one for me a long time ago was Pandora - for some reason I was under the impression they weren't around anymore, but it looks like they are. But, I don't know if they are still as great as they were back then.

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely know where you're coming from.with the frametime issues, I see the same thing whether in X or Wayland.

I thought that was just the state of Linux gaming for a while, since I hadn't known anyone else personally who was using Linux (let alone playing games on top of that). It wasn't until the Steam Deck came out which tons of my friends have that I realized "this is just another Nvidia thing is it"...

I agree with this in a lot of cases, but I'm not sure about this case - Mozilla won't be accepting PRs over GitHub from what I can tell.

This is one of the biggest issues with having a large part of the user-base end up on the same instance(s).

I do fear that the Fediverse, since this problem happens on all of the federated services I've seen, is one day going to end up just like Reddit/Twitter/etc. Maybe not in the exact same fashion (hopefully), but similar in many ways.

Which is not to say that I don't appreciate the people behind these communities for all that they contribute, don't get me wrong. But we're eclipsing a precipice that is going to be difficult to come back from.

It's a tough problem, and honestly I don't know what the solution is. It's not as simple as "don't have big instances", but the current situation isn't really ideal either.

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Primarily because my income doesn't really allow for me to go any higher than that, I already worked a bit overtime last month since the opportunity was available in order to be able to pick it up. Short of a GPU magically falling from the sky, it was always going to be a lateral move at best. I'd love to either not have to spend money on a card that isn't really going to gain me a performance boost (and I don't do any raytracing, my gaming is still fairly lightweight - I'm still on 1080p 60Hz monitors for example), but Nvidia's stupid games (ha) is pretty much forcing my hand.

As of right now, using Wayland is nigh impossible for me due to the this issue and a fix is a long way out from now because it requires approval on an explicit sync protocol, and then every single compositor will need to implement it - assuming it was approved fairly quickly, its not likely to land in KDE Plasma 6's initial release, and I doubt it'll make it in time for GNOME's next release in the spring. If I used only Wayland-native apps it'd be fine, but that's not the case - my IDE that I use for work for example uses XWayland and experiences the linked issue very heavily and makes it impossible to actually do any work in. Not to mention, most games still use XWayland since they run through WINE/Proton which doesn't have Wayland support yet. But hey, at least Night Light/Color finally works in Wayland as of 545 (which don't even get me started on how ridiculously long that took to get in)...

X11 is hugely problematic because I can hardly reach 60 FPS on just the desktop with basic windows open, the closest I can get is by running KDE and replacing the compositor responsibilities with picom, which has its own fair share of issues. I've spent all year trying various tweaks, driver versions, playing around with X/Nvidia settings, using KWin's and GNOME's triple buffer (patch), and this was the best I can do.

I was really banking on 545 fixing the situation with Wayland, but that's not going to happen anytime soon given explicit sync needing to be added into XWayland - or Nvidia rewriting their driver to use implicit sync (which is a pipe dream, given that their driver's unified architecture means that on Windows it would need to do implicit sync as well). NVK is still a fair bit out from being anywhere near production ready AFAIK, and nouveau is probably still a bit out there as well.

Ironically, Nvidia's driver in Windows is also upsetting me. I get a stranger flicker from what I believe is the same issue as what was just fixed in 545 which is the power-state of the GPU changing. So this happens even when Steam draws its "Your friend is playing some game" notification, or opening a YouTube video.

Funnily enough, I didn't even buy the 2080, it was passed down to me from a friend along with a few other components - I was previously on a GTX 970 which was... painful as I'm sure you can imagine due to its age, and wasn't helped by Nvidia's drivers being horrendous.

I'm not even a hardware person by any means (for various reasons, such as physical ailments), it was an accomplishment for me to be able to effectively tear down my old build, and replace all of the internals (PSU, Motherboard+CPU+RAM, GPU, liquid cooler... the whole works, only the case stayed the same really) so I'll just be happy if I can get my new card swapped in without any issues. If one thing goes right for me this month, I just want it to be that.

At the end of the day, I just want my PC to work (and to let me literally work), and everything else is perfect and fully capable - well, I'm a bit disappointed by my new Intel WLAN card being shoddy in Linux but that's a whole other story. Probably a lot longer of an answer than you expected, but that about sums it up haha.

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yep, I have a RTX 2080 and am picking up a 6700 XT once my pay check lands later today (put in a bit of extra time to justify the cost) - I've given Nvidia more than enough time to get their act together.

I have heard that Intel had just recently released a pretty decent update to their driver, I haven't been following it too closely but there's certainly hope.

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Actually, someone in that thread pointed me to https://www.nongnu.org/atool this, which does exactly that!

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a huge difference between GPS which is effectively a rootkit, and Steam which is a userland application however. To actually remove GPS requires that you have a device with an unlockable bootloader (or an active exploit to gain root privileges) so that you can flash a ROM without it - Steam is one simple uninstall away.

Sure, a monopoly on the gaming market isn't great, and while I hope I don't bite my words anytime soon - Valve/Steam is the lesser of the two evils. Especially if you consider that it wasn't really all that long ago where Linux gaming was an absolutely crazy idea that resulted in the pool of games available to you to be very very small.

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Valve runs the DRM that runs Steam. They are making the platform desktop agnostic, but that may not be sustainable.

Sure, but they can't force Linux users to use Steam. It just so happens that most Linux gamers use Steam because it works well for them, thanks to the hard work of the various open-source devs (along with Valve, Codeweavers, etc) behind WINE, DXVK, and Proton. Microsoft can theoretically force Windows users to use only their store, if they felt like that was a good idea for whatever reason.

Steam may push users to Linux, but still run the Steam walled garden.

The Steam Deck has both a Desktop Mode which lets you run any application you want (so long as its Linux compatible of course), SteamOS is built on top of Arch (which you can build on top of), and lets you run whatever OS you would like (you can even go as far as removing SteamOS if that is what you want). I'm not sure how it's a "Walled Garden". A walled garden would be the Xbox / PlayStation / Switch and basically any other console, along with most mobile phones, where you cannot install the OS that you want - you're forced to use what the manufacturer provides.

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