russjr08

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I mean, you started your comment by saying "Wayland apologists" - I'm not sure why you thought it would go over just fine.

Which is unfortunate that you did, the Linux community already has quite a bit of hate for Nvidia (for good reason) but comments like these tend to just make people who use Nvidia hardware look bad. I say this as someone who made the exact same position on the argument (so to speak) in a similar thread a few days ago.

I hope you get to move over to Company B as soon as possible, and I'm sorry that things have been an absolute shitshow (from what I can gather) at A/C.

Checking in from my couch while wrapped in a soft and warm robe I just got last week - it's quite cold outside!

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As someone who just had to shell out the money to do a lateral move from an Nvidia 2080 to a RX 6700XT - don't go with Nvidia if you're wanting to have a good time.

Yes. X11 these days usually auto-configures on its own (to my understanding, at least) - when you generate one with Nvidia's settings it will add some stuff that is specific to the Nvidia driver, and thus once the card/drivers isn't present, then X11 can't start.

I had removed the drivers before swapping out the card in preparation, so I'm not 100% sure if said proprietary extensions doesn't load because of the lack of drivers, or the lack of the card itself - probably both to be honest.

But either way, X11 wasn't affected by the removal of the custom config, and there wasn't ever one present until I made one via nvidia-settings (other than, it started working of course).

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Aside from removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf because I had generated one via Nvidia's XServer settings - nope! The custom config there did prevent X from loading properly, switched to a tty to delete the config, restarted, and was perfectly fine afterwards.

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, that looks stunning! I am no where near skilled enough to be able to even begin wrapping my head around making a compositor, even with a library - but I do know that like the other commenter mentioned we certainly need more libraries aside from the two that we currently have (but I understand why that's a very tall order) so major props to you!

The default Web UI also has autocomplete as well, though its a bit iffy sometimes:

It works for both communities and users as well

Google Chat was originally only for businesses/teams (think like a very condensed version of Slack) through Google Workspace - at some point it seems they lifted that restriction, but I get the feeling the actual target market hasn't really changed.

Yep, same! Some of my friends have told me it's a bit "silly" for me to have it enabled - but there's plenty of bad things that occur on a daily basis in my life, I do not think there's a single problem with having some wobbly windows as a small vice to enjoy haha.

Sure, but unfortunately from a user-perspective side of things what this meant is that for me XWayland (and thus, Wayland as a whole) has been broken for quite a while just because I happened to use an Nvidia card.

I've mentioned in a previous comment a few weeks ago, I do commend the couple of devs (that Nvidia has so graciously allowed to work on the OSS side of things) work into wiring up support for explicit synchronization and getting support added in upstream - but its been very saddening from my point-of-view to watch the discussion over at the related issue constantly go from "Well Nvidia just needs to support implicit sync" to "Well we can't, but what can we do to get things to work with explicit sync since we do support that" and back and forth on that for a year.

All of this of course, while the community is trying to drop X11 as fast as they possibly can now. If it were just a case of not being able to use Wayland for a bit longer, I would've still been a bit upset by it, but I could've lived with it. Unfortunately, X11 + Nvidia also doesn't work that great in my case. I have two 1080p displays that only run at 60Hz, and I could hardly get the desktop itself to run at a stable 60FPS without it constantly dropping frames from just having a web browser open which should not be difficult at all for an RTX 2080. I tried every single tweak on both the Nvidia X-settings side of things, various compositor options for KWin, Mutter, etc - nothing helped. The closest I got was using KDE's X11 session, disabling compositing from KWin and replacing it with picom... but even that wasn't great, and came with a whole handful of problems too.

Then surprise surprise, I finally get my AMD card (RX 6700XT so pretty much a lateral move), same monitors - X11 runs just fine for the few occasions where I can't use Wayland, and at the same time Wayland runs beautifully.

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're not hating on Arch, they're "hating" on the small (but loud) group of people who have a superiority complex for just running Arch and doing it the manual way (and tends to see those who installed with archinstall as a cop-out).

Just like the people who shit on those for using Windows.

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