jlou

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[–] jlou@mastodon.social 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Postcapitalist systems can use market prices and, in principle, be Pareto optimal on non-institutionally described states of affair

@politicalmemes

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Not a strawman. There are tons of examples of framing the capitalism issue in terms of consent vs coercion. Nozick talks about capitalist acts between consenting adults etc.

Many worker coops and majority employee-owned ESOPs exist today. It works.

Democratic theory argues that contracts based on consent to alienate are inherently invalid. Since the employment system is on the "wrong" side, the original theory invalidating these contracts is ignored and forgotten

@progressivepolitics

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 3 points 3 months ago

Because most liberals don't consistently apply their own principles. A principle that liberals are inconsistent with is the juridical principle of imputation, the norm of legal and de facto responsibility matching. They ignore this norm's routine violation in the capitalist firm. Here, despite the workers joint de facto responsibility for production, the employer is solely legally responsible for 100% of the positive and negative results of production while workers as employees get 0%

@asklemmy

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 3 months ago

The academic definition would be the systems of the historical Eastern Bloc countries or a hypothetical society that has somehow completely abolished commodity production

@leftymemes

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Rhetorically, it doesn't matter how I define the term. It matters how people use it.

The way I would define it is either the systems of historical Eastern Bloc countries or a hypothetical society that has somehow completely abolished commodity production

@leftymemes

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Most people think

Socialism = state central planning

@leftymemes

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 11 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I'm not a socialist, but what I advocate for is explicitly postcapitalist.

Some postcapitalist policies include

- All firms are mandated to be worker coops similar to how local governments are mandated to be democratic
- Land and natural resources are collectivized with a 100% land value tax and various sorts of emission taxes etc
- Voluntary democratic collectives that manage collectivized means of production and provide start up funds to worker coops
- UBI

@leftymemes

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 4 points 3 months ago

Market economies aren't exclusive to capitalism. A postcapitalist society could use markets in some places.

It is capitalism's defenders, who are unscientific. Basic facts are unmentionable to capitalism's supporters. The fact that only persons can be responsible and things no matter how causally efficacious can't be responsible for anything is unmentionable in an economic context. The employer's appropriation of 100% of the positive and negative fruits of labor is obfuscated

@unpopularopinion

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 3 points 3 months ago

Did you read the article? It argues that democracy is necessary to meet the requirements of liberal procedural justice, so it isn't just a matter of outcomes

@sneerclub

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 4 points 3 months ago

Econ 101 is designed to obfuscate the real issues. Even talking about specific wealth distribution ratios is falling for the misframing of the issues that Econ 101 wants to lead people into with the pie metaphor. In the capitalist firm, the employer holds 100% of the property rights for the produced outputs and liabilities for the used-up inputs while workers qua employees get 0% of that. The entire division of the pie metaphor in Econ 101 is based around hiding this fact

@196

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 2 points 3 months ago

Who defines permitted contracts in a free market? Some right libertarians suggest that "free" markets include the "freedom" to sell labor by the lifetime or sell voting rights in the state.

"The comparable question about an individual is whether a free system will allow him to sell himself into slavery. I believe that it would." -- Robert Nozick

The theory that invalidates such contracts is the theory of inalienable rights. It has recently been shown to apply to capitalist employment

@memes

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 5 points 3 months ago

Sure, as a historical tradition, classical liberalism has its share of anti-democratic figures. The point of the paper is to show that classical liberalism, as a body of coherent philosophy, actually implies democracy. Most classical liberals, historically, have been defenders of capitalism. Showing the ideology that usually capitalism apologists adhere to actually implies anti-capitalism is a powerful critique

@sneerclub

 

The Kantian Person/Thing Principle in Political Economy. An argument for workplace democracy

https://www.ellerman.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/KantianPrinciple-JEI.pdf

The paper presents a theory of workers' rights. It demonstrates that workers have an inalienable right to workplace democracy and to appropriate the fruits of their labor. Inalienable means the rights cannot be given up even with consent. It implies that all companies should be structured as worker coops and employer-employee contract should be abolished @philosophy

 

"[GNU/]Linux being secure is a common misconception in the security and privacy realm."

https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/linux.html

"[GNU/]Linux is thought to be secure primarily because of its source model, popular usage in servers, small userbase and confusion about its security features. This article is intended to debunk these misunderstandings".

Based on this, one should try to do as much as possible on a GrapheneOS device

@privacy

 

"The Case Against the Employment System," and for Workplace Democracy

https://ellerman.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/case-based-on-ordinary-norms.pdf

@cooperatives

 

Fighting Billionaires’ Control of the Media, Individual News Vouchers

https://cepr.net/fighting-billionaires-control-of-the-media-individual-news-vouchers/

@socialism

 

Fighting Billionaires’ Control of the Media, Individual News Vouchers

https://cepr.net/fighting-billionaires-control-of-the-media-individual-news-vouchers/

@leftism

 

Fighting Billionaires’ Control of the Media, Individual News Vouchers

https://cepr.net/fighting-billionaires-control-of-the-media-individual-news-vouchers/

@politics

 

The Kantian Person/Thing Principle in Political Economy

https://www.ellerman.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/KantianPrinciple-JEI.pdf

This article presents a rights-based deontological theory of corporate governance inspired by aspects of Immanuel Kant's thought.

@humanities

 

Follow the leader: "Rainer Sonntag helped fuel a neo-Nazi movement that still plagues Germany today ... and worked for Vladimir Putin."

https://magazine.atavist.com/follow-the-leader-nazi-putin-sonntag-cold-war/

"In the waning days of the Cold War, Rainer Sonntag helped fuel a neo-Nazi movement that still plagues Germany today. He was also a Communist spy—and worked for Vladimir Putin."

@world

 

Follow the leader: "Rainer Sonntag helped fuel a neo-Nazi movement that still plagues Germany today ... and worked for Vladimir Putin."

https://magazine.atavist.com/follow-the-leader-nazi-putin-sonntag-cold-war/

"In the waning days of the Cold War, Rainer Sonntag helped fuel a neo-Nazi movement that still plagues Germany today. He was also a Communist spy—and worked for Vladimir Putin."

@news

 

How to make yourself richer and protect the planet – Elevator Pitches

https://youtu.be/fCEIjEUlQr4

"To generate climate dividends, Barnes would implement a hard, declining carbon cap. (A tax ..., he says, is not enough ...) Permits would be auctioned ... to upstream sources, where carbon enters the economy. As the number of permits declined, permits would [increase in] value... and dividends would increase, driving a virtuous ... cycle that brings public support behind carbon reduction"

@videos

 
 
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