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it appears that the plan of creating government regulation is effective at stopping production, and no causal link to demand is outlined in your hastily-googled abstract.

Well, your graph could just as easily support my position as it could go against it.

no, it' can't. this is an unscientific claim.

Do you have anything else that proves being vegan is an effort in futility?

i've never said that. i think if you want to avoid animal products, then doing so is its own reward. but if you want to decrease animal slaughter, it's ineffective.

i suggest that you go where animals are being slaughtered and stop it.

I see a line that could be higher if not for the personal choice of a collective of vegans, vegetarians, and generally healthier people.

you can't prove a counterfactual. but it is a fact that vegans exist, and the chart continues to rise.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/tobacco-production?tab=chart&country=~OWID_WRL

edit: i don't know how you can quantify the demand for tobacco, and i don't know what causal mechanism can explain this chart.

i think supply creates its own demand, but i don't believe there is any causal mechanism by which choosing to buy something causes more of it to be produced, nor that production causes others to purchase it.

i'm saying if what you're claiming is true, then it would follow that the growth of the industry would stop and reverse.

So I guess I chose the easy one.

but if it's ineffective, then it is no better.

What kind of proof do you want and I’ll go find it for you how’s that.

i'd like proof of a causal mechanism by which choosing to buy beans has caused meat production to decline. i don't think you can find any such causal mechanism.

what you're presenting is a classic post hoc ergo propter hoc. both of those declined in production following the introduction of color television as well. we can't very well say that color caused a reduced production. in fact, you haven't actually presented any evidence that less asbethos or cigarettes are being produced.

We’ve had this argument like twice already.

and you still haven't seemed to grasp the lack of evidence for your claim.

Do I need to send you university debate level arguments

i'm not interested in debate. i'm interested in provable claims.