bartolomeo

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[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That's a robot head icon, right? It would be nice to see a list of all the icons and their meaning.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 6 points 10 months ago

No, not the avatar. I added an example of the icon to my post.

Thanks for the suggestion! Is it possible to cross-post? I don't see the option here.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 2 points 10 months ago

Thanks, I'll check it out.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 2 points 10 months ago

Come on man, it's linuxey and exotic!

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 2 points 10 months ago

But it was enough! Kids these days have access to gigs of HD video... not sure if that's a good thing.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 2 points 10 months ago

You're right, the analogy got a bit out of hand. Murder was never mentioned in the original analogy, it was poking eyes, kicking nuts, and drawing a weapon.

I guess in the end we do disagree, because I still hold that it's logical for the belligerent with less power to use any means necessary to avoid annihilation. Seems like everybody here agrees (fortunately) that when the fighting stops, all belligerents should face a tribunal at the ICJ, but the conversation started with actions taking place during the fighting.

Palestine is a good example: they have no military so should they say to their oppressors, "welp we can't legally fight you so I guess you can ethnically cleanse us and take our land"? On the flip side, it's unconscionable for Israel to commit war crimes against Palestine when the power imbalance is so extreme. Not only is Israel extremely well funded but they also have a military industry worth billions, as well as an advanced high tech sector and surveillance equipment installed all over the occupied territories. First and foremost, Israel was legally bound to use police force in occupied Palestine. Military force in an occupied territory is illegal, so those Palestinians who commited the Oct 7th attacks should have been arrested as the result of police work, and faced a trial. But we all know this is a genocide and land grab (since 1967), and it seems absurd to expect the victims of that to adhere to international law, especially when the oppressors don't. "Let's not stoop to their level" literally means "let's die".

Anyway, I do appreciate this civilized conversation with someone that has an opinion different than mine. Lemmy is a great place.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We must be talking about two different things because imo it's way better to live and have your day in court than to die of injuries or best case get all your stuff stolen and then have zero recourse.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a treasure. Toyota?

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What's that? Can you play "wake me up when september ends" on it?

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is it still running?

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 1 points 10 months ago

We agree on that, but that wasn't the issue we were talking about.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It was the same when reports came out that Hamas was withholding aid from Palestinians. It was unconscionable when Hamas did it for one day, but "a nEcEsSaRY eViL" when Israel did it for 2 months. It's all the narrative, and the power imbalance between Israel and Palestine is so gross when Israel has advanced internet infrastructure and billions of dollars for marketing (foreign relations, hasbara, whatever you want to call it) while Palestine doesn't have either electricity or water.

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