Otome-chan

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[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Personally I believe that there should be at least some attempt to protect kids from seeing adult content online. Ideally of course it'd be parental responsibility, but having some sort of system in place would be good. I think the tech around porn as it currently exists is deeply harmful, both for children and for women. I'm not against porn as a thing, but like.... come on, we can't just be spreading around videos without any sort of filters and removing it from the control of the people featured in the video.

There's not a good technical solution for these problems just yet it seems. I think the idea of age verification on-device, and then sending an 18+ or minor flag to apps/sites/etc. would be a good solution. We already click on a "I'm 18+" button, and this is functionally the equivalent but having age verification going on completely offline. Yes, people could bypass that with technical knowhow, but the point isn't to stop adults, it's to largely prevent kids from seeing this stuff.

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (40 children)

I was wondering their reasoning, here:

We have publicly supported mandatory age verification of viewers of adult content for years, but any method of age verification must preserve user privacy and safety.

Basically, they don't disagree with mandatory verification, they just wish for it to do so in a way that doesn't violate the privacy of adults legitimately accessing the content.

Their suggestion for this is:

The only solution that makes the internet safer, preserves user privacy, and stands to prevent children from accessing age inappropriate content is performing age verification at the device level.

Essentially, do age verification on-device, and have the device send the okay to view signal to the site. This is something websites cannot implement on their own, until device/os developers implement such. I agree this is a good solution, but I think it'll be difficult to push tech companies to do this without further legislation.

I think it might be good to seek the EU to require tech companies to implement such a on-device feature, which will naturally roll out to all tech devices.

Edit: these quotes are from the porn company, not the court.

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

That's the theory, yeah. That hiccups are something to do with switching between gills and lungs and that reminding yourself you're no longer a fish stops that.

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what happens if you don't have a phone number? you're just prevented from having a bank account?

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

that's good to know. I'll just switch everything over to google authenticator then.

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

phone numbers are typically tied to your name/identity, and phone companies can locate you using their towers and such. Giving a company your phone number is identical to giving a company your full legal name and address.

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

there's quite a lot of services that want phone for verification/2fa/whatever. whenever I run into them I usually just refuse to use the service altogether.

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

websites explicitly said to get one or the other so I did.

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

do all authenticators work for all services?

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like the app setup rather than shoving everything into a browser. But I'm not a fan of this 2fa stuff. I get the point is security, but let me decide which app/method to use, and whether I want to use it at all. Otherwise it's just annoying.

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (29 children)

No offense to companies but I'm honestly sick of companies forcing 2fa. Every single one seems to have a different shitty way of doing it. Like why on earth do I need two different authenticator apps on my phone (authy&google authenticator)? Some do sms/phone number, but then yell at you and prevent you from doing 2fa if you have a "bad phone number". This happened on discord where I'm locked out of certain servers because I can't do phone verification, and I can't do it because discord doesn't like my phone number. Twitter was the same way for a long while (couldn't do 2fa/phone verification due to them not liking my number).

From the article it sounds like they're doing authenticator app or sms. I'm guessing sms won't work for me, so app it is. I decided to dig to see which authenticator app they use and they list: 1password, authy, lastpass, and microsoft.... no google?

Honestly, even email requirements for accounts is annoying because you know it just ends up spamming you. is the future where we're gonna have to have 30 different authenticator apps on our phone?

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