IzzyScissor

Because there's no "wrong" answer in an experiment. AKA no accountability.

I still have hope... just not for America. I can make somewhere else better.

'Decline to answer' is a valid option for those people and they don't get included in these polls.

You're making speculations as to why they voted the way they said they did, but that's unknowable. Your guess is just as good as mine, which is why it's rude to assume yours is the right guess.

So, you don't trust any poll where people self-report the information?

You don't mean that. You're just saying that in order to maintain your standing in your community.

.. see how rude that is to just assume people are lying about themselves as if you know better?

Exit polls - voluntary responders only

Exactly. They're DEALING WITH the far right. They haven't just handed they keys to the country over.

There's still a chance for them.

Yeah, and they act like learning about a new skin cream on the street is going to be subjected to the same level of scrutiny as learning about a new study on "gun bans", even though people have been studying this for decades and the results largely don't change, only the public perception of them.

It's like if they showed people a new study for "Earth gravity" vs "Moon gravity" and act surprised when people don't immediately catch on when their numbers say the moon makes you weigh more. You wouldn't be expecting that result OR trust a random person on the street to change your view of gravity with a chart of 4 numbers.

Yes, they found bias. Cool.

Alternate title: A single "study" presented from someone on the street is typically not enough to change anyone's perspective on a subject, especially if that "study" presents "facts" that are contradictory to the listener's previous knowledge.

Humans aren't rational. Humans are rationalizing. If someone on the street giving you a basic chart with 4 numbers on it is enough to change your mind, you likely didn't have much of an opinion to begin with.

Sure, Jan.

Nah, the problem is that it makes complete sense in the imperfect would we actually live in. You want to have a perfectly logical reason to vote, but you're never going to find it, so good luck. You're going to have to compromise somewhere. I'm just honest about when/where.

...you need to show that the general reasoning of choosing the lesser evil is a valid line of thought.

I really don't though. There isn't an ethics test after the vote. You don't have to show your work. The fact that you're so hung up on this makes me think you just want to "win" an ideological debate, but I'm not having one of those.

You can vote or not, but there's only two possible outcomes at this point. Believe it or don't. Excuse it or don't.

[Resolved] Third parties splitting the vote

"Working as intended."