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[-] UnRelatedBurner@sh.itjust.works 72 points 3 weeks ago

I don't get what's supposed to be wrong here, it works on my machine

[-] anzo@programming.dev 50 points 3 weeks ago

This is the first time I enjoy a meme of this format / situation.

[-] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago

I am feeling confused with this meme. I am going to escalate this to my manager, secretly hopong he'll tell me to do something else while he passes this on to the one dude in my team who's worked with multithreading that one time.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago

I’d like to play ho-pong too.

[-] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 weeks ago

You have NO IDEA how hard my autism hates you!

[-] Bazz@feddit.de 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Knock knock

Race condition!

Who's there?

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

vroom vroom, race conditions 🏎️

[-] tulth@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago

good one! i have to admit I didn't get it until I was browsing the comments and then it hit me 😀

[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'm embarrassed to say I only finally got it now. After reading the joke last night. -_-;

[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago

I'm actually an expert in multiprocessing, which is just as good

[-] alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

Just out of curiosity, can locks be used in multiprocessing?

[-] qqq@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[-] alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Oh neat. Thanks

[-] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago
[-] arandomthought@sh.itjust.works 120 points 3 weeks ago

In case you are serious: It's probably not.
When you're not careful with parallel processing / multithreading, you can run into something called a "race condition", where results of parallel computations end up in the wrong order because some were finished faster than others.
The joke here is that whoever "programmed" this commic is bad at parallel progmming and got the bubbles in the wrong order because of that.
The image makes perfect sense if you read it in the order 3, 1, 2.

[-] krimson@feddit.nl 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Apart from the fact that bubble 1 and 2 point to the wrong person.

[-] Jaccident@lemm.ee 29 points 3 weeks ago

I think that’s part of the joke too. Like the whole comic has been written out of order due to race conditions; rather than just the father represents race conditions.

It’s one degree of humour too far though, if that’s the case, doesn’t really land.

[-] Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 weeks ago

It definitely landed for me. The aspect of one thread coming out of a totally different routine for no reason was extra funny.

[-] arandomthought@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, if you reorder only the text and not the whole bubble it's also correct. =)

[-] jettrscga@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Oooh. Thanks for that, makes more sense now.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago

The image makes perfect sense if you read it in the order 3, 1, 2.

OH!

I was assuming the joke was that 1 and 3 got swapped around. Because it doesn't really make sense for 2 to be mixed up, considering it's from a different person entirely...

Which meant that the joke just made no sense, because swapping 1 and 3 is just as nonsense as the original order.

[-] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago

🤦🏽‍♀️ Thanks for explaining, my brain must have corrected the race condition.

Regarding threads: I have had good experience with using thread safe queues everywhere to exchange data between threads, it's the right tool in many cases, but I doubt queues to be useful when coding for performance.

[-] expr@programming.dev 1 points 3 weeks ago

Umm, queueing is standard practice particularly when a task is performance intensive and needs limited resources.

Basically any programming language using any kind of asynchronous runtime is using queues in their scheduler, as well.

[-] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Could be I was not clear when I wrote performance, I am talking about High Performance Computing, where you want to spend all CPU cycles on solving your problem. While taking Amdal's Law into account. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl%27s_law

[-] expr@programming.dev 3 points 3 weeks ago

Ah gotcha, fair enough. Definitely depends on the workload. If you have compute you want to dedicate to solely to a single task, have at it.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

lol your operating system is using queues and buffers with multiple threads everywhere.

[-] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Correct, and your point is?

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

My point is you don’t need to doubt the usefulness of queues for performance.

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 18 points 3 weeks ago

You have exactly 10 seconds to get the duck out of programmerhumor

[-] Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 weeks ago

Not a lot of programmers on programmerhumor these days are there?

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Half of the people posting here act like they are terrified of using threads. Then someone is explaining what a race condition is and they get 100+ upvotes like they just solved world hunger.

[-] femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think it is, the joke is a bit poorly executed, but if you look at the text, the speach bubbles were made white by hand

[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 3 weeks ago

Lol at all of the people not getting it. Why comment here at all 😅

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 37 points 3 weeks ago

Why comment here at all

Because we're programmers, and programmers are infamous for being rules-/logic-driven.

If, as a comment below suggests, the joke is that it's meant to be read in order 3, 1, 2, that violates the rule that race conditions typically don't cause an entirely different program to produce the output. So if the joke is meant to be "lol we have a race condition", bubbles should be mixed up for one person, not mixed between people.

People don't get the joke because the joke violates its own internal rules.

[-] qqq@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

It doesn't violate any rules.. Imagine both the "speaker" and the "text" are being updated by separate threads. A program that would eventually display the behavior in this meme is simple, and I'm a bit embarrassed to have written it because of this comment:

#include <pthread.h>
#include <stdio.h>

char* speakers[] = {
    "Alice",
    "Bob"
};
int speaker = 0;

void* change_speaker(void* arg)
{
    (void)arg;

    for (;;) {
        speaker = speaker == 0 ? 1 : 0;
    }
}

char* texts[] = {
    "Hi Bob",
    "Hi Alice, what's up?",
    "Not much Bob",
};
int text = 0;

void* change_text(void* arg)
{
    (void)arg;
    for (;;) {
        switch (text) {
        case 0:
            text = 1;
            break;
        case 1:
            text = 2;
            break;
        case 2:
            text = 0;
            break;
        }
    }
}

int main(int argc, char* argv[])
{
    pthread_t speaker_swapper, text_swapper;

    pthread_create(&text_swapper, NULL, change_text, NULL);
    pthread_create(&speaker_swapper, NULL, change_speaker, NULL);
    for (int i = 0; i < 3; ++i) {
        printf("%s: %s\n", speakers[speaker], texts[text]);
    }
}
[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, I guess that makes sense. One person asks if the other is an expert, they reply they read the for dummies book, cue comically aggressive response.

There's so much going on in this exchange, including two separate jokes as well as weird multi-person race conditions, that I couldn't reverse engineer it.

[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 weeks ago

I don't see OP explaining it anywhere.

It's just threads running out of order.

Why are you all overengineering the joke this much?

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago

Why are you all overengineering the joke this much?

Because I'm literally an engineer?

Honestly, this isn't me artificially coming in and doing something weird. It's just me trying to explain how my brain naturally interpreted it. It never occurred to me to include the left guy's speech bubble in the race condition until I saw someone else's comment explaining it.

[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 3 weeks ago

It's a meme

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