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The mastodon and lemmy content I’m seeing feels like 90% of it comes from people who are:

  • ~30 years old or older

  • tech enthusiasts/workers

  • linux users

There’s nothing wrong with that particular demographic or anything, but it doesn’t feel like a win to me if the entire fediverse is just one big monoculture.

I wonder what it is that is keeping more diverse users away? Is picking a server/federation too complicated? Or is it that they don’t see any content that they like?

Thoughts?

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[–] I_AnoN_I@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

23 year old electrician here. I'm pretty interested in dectralized tech. My first was Bitcoin

This is also me: I'm a 39 year old Ubuntu user who has been excited about the Internet since the day I first learned what a modem does, in maybe like, 1990?

So far I think Lemmy's a bit too technical for regular people to get started with the Fediverse and to figure out how to find the right communities to join in order to have content show up in their feed comparable to what they're already getting at a commercial service, which takes no effort at all to continue to scroll. Why would a normal person want to use alpha release software? We're still in the early days, we're the early adopters.

[–] Sandakada@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Reddit began in a similar fashion, so its a positive trait for sure

[–] gooddaytodayhere@vlemmy.net 8 points 1 year ago

Fit the first one. Not the other two 😂

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

You just described the demographics of the average early tech adopter.

Old enough to understand the importance of privacy and to care about the federation aspect of the fediverse, tech savvy and nerdy enough to not be discouraged by an unfamiliar interface and still developing environment. And apparently we like Linux too.

[–] mycroft@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

"You must be new here"

We're always the first adopters.

[–] acrobaticpenguin23@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Probably so. But then why are Android and Android Apps struggling for engagement? But more randoms, casuals, just a wider overall demographic will be needed for niche communities to become viable.

The communities I mainly communicated in on Reddit either don't exist, or have paltry engagement here.

This is why I am keeping my Reddit account active to make posts in these forums to invite others over here to build engagement.

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[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Picking a server is complicated... And I still don't get how to get content from other servers into my main feed.

But the other thing is monitization. If you build up a decent filling on TikTock for example, they pay you. My kids friends are all chasing that.

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[–] ted_pikul@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I fit the profile

[–] pfannkuchen_gesicht@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago

Hah, I fit the description perfectly. Not too sure how to take that. ☹️

[–] GAMER@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Gosh I feel like this guy called me out.

But then I saw the user name.

Hmmm.....

[–] kerr@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago

The Reddit migration was probably mostly people who know what an API is so that fits your demographic.

Also, people generally don’t take a stance on something unless it affects them personally. So API, privacy, data collection etc just doesn’t register.

[–] ike@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Hey just fyi, I post all this stuff first on my site at noschool.angelfire.com, but i realize people are all here on Xanga now, so I copy it here too. Anyways:

These lemmy users are really making me stress about my age, as if my back pain wasn't enough. I guess I just need to accept it. I have too much going on to be worried about that anyways, i still need to get the rest of those songs downloaded for the mix cd. Kazaa is taking forever to download, but soulseek is ZOOMING at 300kbps, so there's that. Once i get my domain and stuff set up, and my blog system going with Greymatter, let me know if you want to use one of my subdomains for your blog. Anyways i'll be on aim later if anyone is bored."

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[–] ZombieZookeeper@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Get off my lawn.

[–] AVeryCleverName@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I spent most of my time on Reddit in the learn programming subs, so I'm glad at least that demographic has moved here. I'm almost 34, don't work in tech but want to, don't use Linux but want to (and if the rumors of windows adding ads to the OS are true I will switch to Linux full time except for gaming). I wasn't really that invested in the reddit API changes but I liked reddit when it was more under ground and wild west. I used to spend a lot of time on rcsources (those days are behind me regardless, though). So I wanted to see if there was still room on the internet for the outlaw tech cowboy shtick, and Lemmy stepped up to the plate.

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[–] zikk_transport2@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2* y.o. Linux user & sysadmin/sre/devops/younameit checking in.

I am still gonna use reddit for porn only, using patched Reddit app (by Revanced manager). 😂

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[–] EGirlEnthusiast@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm a 20 year old. I may be the only one in this thread unable to drink legally lol

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[–] ichigo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I feel it's complicated for the non-tech users but interestingly I have started to see some folks coming to Lemmy because I (a tech friend) started using it and advertising to them. I think it's these early adopters who play a major role in bringing the non-tech folks and people from other diverse culture.

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[–] samokosik@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I am around 20 and use lemmy, but I agree my friends need instagram

[–] theacta@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I think that might be because most people who go through the hurdles of setting up an account and figuring out the entire frediverse are people who are much more interested in the tech and it's applications rather than your average social media consumer who can just get all they want in a single location with a easy to understand concept

[–] joolez@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

If 'getting in' would be more mass compatible we would have a more realistic view about society. That would bei great but the society is of douchebags and this is what mass social media is suffering from in my mind.

[–] ripjackie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

24 yr old tech worker / Linux user checking in! I'm not old yet but I've got the spirit!

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's funny if so - I was so old on Reddit. But this means I'm old enough to remember Usenet so this platform is comfortable for me.

I don't think it was difficult at all to sign up though, doesn't seem like a barrier to entry.

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[–] wwaxwork@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

There are a many people over the age of 30 on Reddit as under. People like us make up 50% of reddit users.

[–] krayj@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Right now, the fediverse is not very user-friendly for non-tech people.

I mean, there's instances de-federating from each other, weird federation sync anomalies still going on between instances, users have to create and maintain multiple user accounts on multiple instances if those instances have defederated each other, even the 'official' jerboa app for lemmy shits itself if you try and connect in to an instance that's one sub-dot version lower than what it was built for - plus it crashes on 1/3 of my android devices, some of the best lemmy apps have been removed from app stores due to non-compliance with app store terms and have to be installed manually from github. It's all still very DIY right now instead of plug-and-play....and if lemmy is to appeal to anyone other than tech nerds, it needs to become much more user friendly and much more plug-and-play.

I tried explaining it all to my wife (who is still a Reddit user) and she argues that lemmy on fediverse sounds way too complicated...and she's not wrong.

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[–] GRiMtox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't use Linux, but other than that...

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