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Elon has responded to the criticism and is increasing the limits to a whopping:

Verified accounts: 8000 posts/day
Unverified accounts: 800 posts/day
New unverified accounts: 400 posts/day
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[–] OptimusPrime@lemmy.moonling.nl 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Elon is helping people to move towards Mastedon and Lemmy.

Thanks Elon.

[–] 70ms@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Between him and Spez, they've done a great job. 😂

[–] TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He is spez’ idol. So while Reddit’s circles the drain and value decreases, they’ll will no doubt kill old.reddit on August 1st or something dumb, followed by a posting limit next year. 🤣

[–] fidodo@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spez didn't borrow billions of dollars he has to pay back with interest though so he won't need to fire almost all his engineers.

He did however send all the most talented developers working under the platform to his biggest competitor so that wasn't smart.

[–] BA834024112@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah. He literally called them competitors when they were driving traffic to his website. Now many of them are working on making their applications work with Reddit's true competitors.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

It is a success. Actually searched out Mastodon to add to my rss feeds for the first time for accounts that had them.

[–] LetoAtreidesOnLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And Bluesky, which honestly has proven a pretty good alternative for Twitter.

[–] natryamar@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

What are the big differences between mastodon and blue sky?

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[–] LazyCorvid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

If you have 800 posts available and you read a post every 10 seconds, then you can only spend 2,2 hours per day on the site before you can't see new posts.

Twitter basically forces its users to verify their accounts to use the site in a normal way. That will definitly backfire.

[–] dylcarinc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It’s been fascinating to watch Elon test how much Twitter’s user base will tolerate.

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Touch grass, indeed

[–] 429@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I had to look this up, couldn't believe it. I've been pretty indifferent to Musk and Twitter...cause I've been always indifferent to Twitter, but this is crazy. As an example, my city's police and bus services and others all use Twitter to send updates out. And I'm sure it's the same for most places. And now they've essentially lost the ability to mass communicate with people, because they need to be able to reach everyone not just those with an account.

[–] PoppinKREAM@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I used Twitter for all my local updates - from what's happening at city hall to live traffic and weather updates.

What's up with CEO's messing with social media companies. Huffman and Musk seem to enjoy ruining good things :(

[–] TwoGems@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is with your city's public servants. Relying on something like Twitter was a huge mistake.

[–] Thereisalamp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Until recently it was a great way to reach people in a way you can't really do with any other platform.

But this day and age breaking TV broadcast doesn't work for anyone under the age of 55 or so

[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Relying on a single service was a huge mistake. You can always diversify.

[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Relying on a single service was a huge mistake. You can always diversify.

[–] ArghZombies@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, that's easy to say. But name another free, publicly available, instant mass message delivery system they could also use?

[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Telegram, RSS, Email....

Take your pick

[–] jtb@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Usenet? It's is still there, despite google's attempts to absorb it.

[–] ChickenAndRice@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why'd you get downvoted when those are good alternatives?

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

All require the audience to be signed up. Twitter allowed users to broadcast. But yes, they are certainly functional alternatives.

Kinda stupid that a local government funded institution relies on a service from a private company to send out notifications

[–] Tarkcanis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

When you do the right thing for the wrong reason...

[–] escaped_cruzader@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who reads more than 800 posts every day? I only ever get on twitter for juice drama every few months

[–] IgnoreKassandra@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Every tweet you scroll past counts as a read tweet. That probably cuts down the number you can actually read by quite a lot.

People were expecting Twitter to go to shit because of bad moderation, but it turns out Elon is much better at adding infuriating features that drive people away in the first place.

[–] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing like telling someone they can’t use your product. I can only imagine what the advertisers are thinking.

[–] feilen@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My understanding is that there's very few left?

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

And most of them are scams.

[–] Vaggumon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

At this point if you still use twitter you are a moron.

[–] kohta@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man, these big tech companies are really imploding lately, huh? Wonder what's next.

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[–] rlspam@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How true is the LLM data scraping threat?

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Meta has shown that getting huge amounts of training data can lead to great results with a model that's much simpler than what openAI uses and it looks like they are taking a more open approach to LLMs because of that. Twitter has shitloads of possible training data, but it's Twitter so that data isn't great.

Elon is known to be afraid of AGIs becoming hostile, so that explains the decision.

I don't think it'll slow down AI development too much. There are new Llama-based models coming out every month that are better than the previous ones.

Reddit is a much better source of data and if they don't want to lose SEO, their data can still be gathered by scraping even after the API changes take effect.

[–] MoiraPrime@lib.lgbt 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's funny because if he's trying to reduce costs, letting people upload 2 hour videos probably costs far more than having your website be accessible to people not logged in LMAO

[–] ijeff@lemdro.id 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's some interesting context:

In 2018, Twitter signed a $1 billion contract with Google to host some of its services on the company’s Google Cloud servers. Platformer reports Twitter recently refused to pay the search giant ahead of the contract’s June 30th renewal date. Twitter is reportedly rushing to move as many services off of Google’s infrastructure before the contract expires, but the effort is “running behind schedule,” putting some tools, including Smyte, a platform the company acquired in 2018 to bolster its moderation capabilities, in danger of going offline. Engadget, June 11, 2023

[–] whoami@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So tl;dr appears to be - Elon refuses to pay Twitter hosting bills, migration plans to a different provider fall behind as pretty much all of the technical talent has been fired or quit, inevitably gets throttled by GCP for non-payment and then introduces "emergency measures" by throttling their user base themselves to try and mitigate it all. The man truly is a visionary.

[–] ledgecake@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes me wonder what gcp would to my resources if I stopped paying

[–] killernova@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Straight to jail.

[–] gon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now, this is ridiculous, of course. However, you shouldn't be reading more than 600 tweets a day. I mean, I don't think I've read 600 tweets in my whole LIFE!!

Anyways, mastodon.world.

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not just reading. Any tweet that loads as you scroll past it on your feed or in replies to a tweet counts towards the limit.

[–] terrapin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not a twitter user but my understanding is that any replies to a tweet also apply towards the limit. So scrolling a popular tweet with hundreds of replies could drain your entire tweet limit in a matter of minutes.

[–] macintosh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can confirm. I scroll past blue checks when I read comments and I had run out my post limit in under 20 minutes today.

[–] AwakenedFinn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Wild when you think about it... Twitter is supported by ads. The more you are on Twitter the more ads you theoretically will see, making the adspace more valuable. Additionally, the more trouble users experience the less they want to use/interact with the service. Isn't such a small and arbitrary cap sort of kneecapping themselves?

I'm assuming the Twitter servers are on figurative fire and this is the only way they can deal short term, because I have a hard time seeing the benefit for them.

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