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More and more I'm starting to think we need such a thing as a children's Bill of Rights. We always talk about rights of the parents but children's rights seems to get just ignored completely in today's society. I mean why does this child have to have their life potentially ruined and at the very least damaged markedly by the attitude of the parent. This kid didn't choose to be born to the psycho parent, yet it's going to have to feel the the effects of it.
In Norway we tried. We got overuled by the European Courts. A bunch of foster parents threw in the towel as a result, and hundreds of children were deprived of a stable home environment.
Big win for the rights of abusive parents though!
There is the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which is an international treaty signed by all but 1 country in the UN. The only holdout is the US.
I would like it if we could also somehow make over feeding your child count as child abuse.
There are a lot of parents who will just throw pizza and McDonald's at the child they have brought into the world rather than put the energy in to feed them nutritious healthy food.
Then you end up having third graders that weigh 175 lb becoming the norm.
And when you step back for just a moment and think, it is clear that that is child abuse. They are inflicting damage on that child that will last for the rest of their lives.
But making your child fat out of sheer laziness isn't treated the same as starving your child out of sheer laziness, and I don't know why.
"Put in the energy" what a judgemental prick. You have no idea what someone's personal situation is, nor would you care if you did. Just another cake life dickhead looking down on others.
So, to be clear I think this is a fantasic idea and needed, but I don't actually see it happening. Children aren't a voting group who can advocate for their own rights, while conversely psychos like that in the image above will be quite vocal about "goverment interference".
While something like this should be bipartisan and common sense to enforce basic facilities for children. I am certain that R's would insist on "not 'trans'ing' children" or the rights of unborn children and the whole thing dies as part of culture war BS.
Maybe I'm jaded, but I don't see how this could progress.
It seems like "parental rights" is the new strategy that far right radicals are using to erode personal rights and freedoms. Up here in Canada they're using it to force gender non-conforming children to be outted to their parents by their schools, and even acknowledge the violation to the rights of children through the use of the notwithstanding clause: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/sask-bill-137-notwithstanding-clause-1.6993335
I dated a girl in highschool who didn't have a social security number. Her parents thought it was the mark of the beast and never registered one for her. All that did was cause her a problem when she became an adult. She had to go down and register one for herself so that she could do normal things like rent an apartment, buy a car, have a credit card, or get a job.
At least if she had a birth certificate, it's not so bad. Still a huge, unnecessary pain in the ass, but kids without birth certificates are going to have a complete nightmare as adults (assuming they don't grow up to be as crazy as their parents). It's so, so hard. I wish sovcits would limit their bullshit to themselves and not subject their poor kids to it.
Confirm. Had to help a friend of mine rebuild her documentation from scratch because her mom, who is nuts, destroyed her birth certificate, social security paperwork, driver's license, and all other documentation apparently out of spite.
It turns out, it's very difficult to get a replacement birth certificate without the involvement of your sole remaining parent when said parent is dead set on being uncooperative. If you don't have a government photo ID, getting the other documents is impossible. And if you don't have the other documents, getting the photo ID is impossible. Chicken and the egg!
I know we have a non-profit where I live that specifically helps people with that. Usually, it's homeless people who just don't have any of their documentation anymore, but I recommended them to someone whose parent was similarly awful. I don't even know where you'd start.
This makes absolutely no sense in my country.
Any child born in this country, if born in an hospital, leaves there already a citizen, with all connections to the state the child is in right to have, by force of law. This means from the moment the child is born, the child gains legal status and protection under the law, including from the parents and family.
Children that by some reason could not be registered at the hospital facilities are required to be registered in under 10 days from the date of birth, under penalty of heavy fines for the parents.
Less than a year back, there was a new cover about a gates community where a child was born and died for unknow causes in less than a year. Somehow, this transpired to the authorities and trigered a massive investigation. More children were found, unregistered, which means unvaccinated, never seen by a pediatrician, etc.
The so called "leader" of that community accused the state of overbearing, arguing the children were his, by right of father, and thus he was entitled to raise the children as he saw fit.
The subject quickly faded off the main news lines, as it was deemed a sensible subject, prone to cause suffering to more children, but that ass got the full weight of the law on him, from child endangerment, to destruction of remains (the deceased baby was alledgly cremated on the compound grounds).
The other children were removed from the compound, along with any members of the community that such chose to.
The religious freedom and parents rights arguments were carefully laid down on the ground, run over with a steam roller, folded, pressed again, soaked in kerosene and lit on fire.
We are a mostly liberal country but children have special protection under the law. We are born citizens and as thus the state has the responsibilty to defend us.
Are there flaws? Yes. Some, grotesque. But for the majority of cases, the system works.
That sounds like some major ppd if she thinks she somehow doesn't have her 2 year old
This is just child abuse. Denying your child the basics that are required by the government for them to use their entitlements like school, healthcare, government services, etc is obscene. Your personal beliefs stop when they hurt other people, including your children.
This is just shit that's going to be a headache for their kid later on and would have been 1000% easier to handle as the parent near their birth.
She doesn't want to give her kids to the gubmint, but she's happy as a pig in shit to hand their privacy over to strangers on Facebook by name.
Is there a way around this and still be able to travel out of the country with her?
I'm laughing just thinking about that whole sovereign citizen vs. ebil gubmint vs. airport customs thing. However it works out, I'm pretty certain it's NOT going to go the way she imagines it will. "Imagine" being the keyword here, lol.
Is there a way this won't affect her in her later years?
Pretty sure when those years arrive, this woman's question will be far more about how to make her daughter stop cursing her, and then later still, how to force the now fully estranged adult daughter via the Ebil Gubmint court system into allowing Batshit Crazy Sovereign Citizen Granny access to the grandkids.
I feel like I gave him away when I had to get everything on him
No, he's only going to wish she had given him away. To people who didn't force him to live without proper ID in a society that revolves more and more closely on exactly that.