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I'm glad this article exists; this has been bothering me. Specifically, I'm bothered that, while aljazeera featured the stories about the boat of refugees as and after it was happening, I haven't seen it crop up in U.S. news at all. One of the deadliest disasters in the Mediterranean, and... crickets.

Then a submersible with a handful of white rich lads gets lost and it's all over the papers and all anyone can talk about.

To be fair, part of this is the fact that the submersible story has a lot of wild and novel details to it, plus the novel "oh god imagine being trapped in a submarine" fear factor, that make it great for getting attention and clicks, but nevertheless.

The other part of it is that people see "poor, brown refugees drowned at sea in the Mediterranean, once again" and feel completely disconnected from that and glaze over. The refugees don't get the same automatic "what would that feel like if it were me" empathizing, and the situation doesn't get the same scrutiny of rescue details and chances and what exactly went wrong that resulted in hundreds and hundreds of innocent people drowning at sea.

And they were in a BOAT. They knew where the boat was. The boat was reachable. They just let them die.

It's true that we're talking about different countries and different organizations, but this is a recurring pattern. Refugees are being systematically and repeatedly allowed to drown when they are very near to people who could help them. Other people get prioritized and rescued like they're kings.

I'm so tired of governments bending over backwards to help billionaires while ignoring average people

I'm so tired of valuing people based on their net worth. these double standards are disappointing and honestly disgusting. I'm disgusted by our current politics and economics

One group is full of hundred-millionaires. The other group is full of destitute people fleeing their home countries due to horrific conditions.

Given that capitalism does put a price on people, that's obviously the metric used to determine who to help.

Today, you could drown an entire cruiseship of Romani and most of Europe would cheer.

On the same vein it would be very easy to say that media, the Guardian included, almost never report on the (weekly or even daily this time of year) rescues that the Greek (and other) navy does successfully carry out. Nor, of course, are the effects of the migration wave ever discussed with appropriate nuance except a one liner under a picture of a local saying "Mr Spyros the baker said he feels for the migrants but he dislikes what's happening to his neighborhood."

They only find space on their front page when they can point a finger at some huge disaster with a tragic photo to illustrate and shock normal people.

Pelt me with stones if you must. I am Greek and live in Athens. The amount of people that have come here and are going around downtown and everywhere else with basically nothing to do in their lives and getting by with benefits if they're lucky (and very often resort to crime as poor people will do anywhere) is unsustainable. If you read opinion polls there is now a very large majority of the population that think this. Even those who vote left have completely come around in the last years. So don't be too hasty with your conclusions. This is not about lacking empathy or humanity. It's just realizing the objective reality that has taken shape around you.

Greece has been blamed for this recent tragedy because the land borders are guarded, which presumably leads to people smugglers sending more people on ships to Italy. But what are we even supposed to do? Just let the country become an open air camp of no prospect poor people, while destroying our society in the process? How does this help anyone? Does anyone think Greece, the recently bankrupt economy, can magically provide for millions of destitute people? Or that if the EU for whatever reason decides all are welcome and thus implicitly invites literally millions, it will not result in widespread social unrest? We already see far right gaining almost everywhere. Here we had literal nazis in parliament and they are currently regrouping after being put in jail.

And there are other questions on this whole issue. Look at UN statistics and see that the majority of people arriving here are not fleeing from Syria. They're from Pakistan and Afghanistan among other places. Why is the answer to those countries' problems to settle their populations in Greece and Europe? Why is no other place on earth willing or expected to help them? How realistic is this as a solution when the number of people who would like to move to Europe (from Asia, Middle East and Africa) is larger than the population of Europe itself? Also, is Saudi Arabia for example only able to house Cristiano Ronaldo? They have resources and are closer geographically and culturally to a lot of these people.

This is just one person's opinion (although very common) but uncontrolled migration can yield even worse results (nightmarish in fact) in the long run than what we're seeing right now. And what we're seeing right now is already terrible. I wish there was a more viable solution than the people stay at home and make those places better to live in, which is just unlikely.

Our civilization doesn't value human life. It values capital. Capitalism turns us against one another.

Here in Australia, honestly, it's disappointing that we're still treating refugees as criminals and turning them back. Who cares if people visit the country. It shouldn't be too much work to identify them

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US coastguard, Canadian armed forces and commercial vessels are all hunting for the Titan submersible, which has gone missing with five aboard. The UK’s Ministry of Defence is also monitoring the situation. It is hard to think of a starker contrast with the response to a fishing boat which sank in the Mediterranean last week with an estimated 750 people, including children, packed onboard. Greece and the EU blame people smugglers, who overcrowd boats and abuse those aboard them. Both have profound questions to answer about their own role in such disasters.

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Billionaires lives matter more, obviously /s

Shame on the US coast guard for failing to help in the Mediterranean.

Lemmy is officially not ready to take over reddit until I see people discussing the cardi b, blink 182 loving stepson angle to this story being discussed.

It's simple human psychology. We get all excited about a child that fell into a well but when it's 10 children or 100 we just care less and less even if the group includes the one kid we started with. I guess it's kinda sad but also not at all surprising