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when i was growing up i genuinely wanted to be a silicon valley programmer guy (in a good way i mean i was like 15); used to look forward to the keynotes like a playoff game

cook is so fucking dry, zero juice

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[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The guy was a MASTER salesman. People like Musk would kill to be that smooth on stage.

The only parts of current Apple events that get close to that magic are the sections hosted by Craig Federighi.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah, Craig has his moments. Thing is, Steve could be cool and a bit alluring. Craig has a habit of taking it a bit too far into “silly,” but I don’t mind.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

..lol

The guy couldn't sell me on anything ever. I saw right though his speeches and say the products for what they locked down, overpriced and underpowered. 15 years later, nothing ls changed but higher costs.

People don't think critically, they think marketing terms. That's why he was good. It's easy to lead people to believe nonsense.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The iPad keynote was good, but the iPhone keynote is the gold standard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQKMoT-6XSg&t=3326s

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Agreed, iPad was the victory lap. iPhone changed the whole paradigm of what a tech release could do, ironically by focusing very little on the tech itself, instead on the lifestyle implications. Mobile makers are still trying to emulate what Jobs was able to do on that stage in 2007.

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Ironically, there was a “gold path” for jobs to follow on the iPhone keynote as the software was extraordinarily buggy, and they outlined a path they were pretty sure was fine

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Buzzwords

Marketing terms

Super high costs

What's not to love

[–] vatw@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 months ago

Even the pre-iPhone ones were pretty crazy. He'd make you want to go out and buy the thing even if you didn't need it. I distinctively remember going and "finding" a beta of OSX before it was publicly released after seeing one of his first key notes back (I don't exactly remember why I was there, but I was). ["...It's Liquid- makes you want to lick it..."]

looking back, kind of scary really...

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

I think he had a fundamental awareness of how regular people needed to interact with the world around them, and he kind of kept upending tables at Apple until their tech fit right in somewhere. I think he had such a stage presence not only from talent, but because he seemed to genuinely see something in the product he believed in, and had all the reasons why.