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After decades of satellite surveillance by foreign governments and analysts, North Korea has sent its first spy satellite on a global orbit with a message to the world: we can watch you too.

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[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 82 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Yo Kim you can get that shit on Google maps

Here look this is a north Korea concentration camp

https://maps.app.goo.gl/3dKoAwC1Kp26M7Xf9

[–] toast@retrolemmy.com 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Google even posts the hours that the camp is open

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's so convenient that it's open 24hrs. One stop dissident shopping.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

Wheelchair accessible

[–] Nythos@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And mentions that it has no reviews yet

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

They really should beef up their social media presence. Get some influencers posting reviews.

[–] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's fucking surreal to see not only this, but the amount that Google knows about Pyongyang. I did try to get directions to the concentration camp lol

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It even knows it has a wheelchair accessible entrance!

[–] NAXLAB@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Why the hell is there a villa just south of there called Residenza presidenziale Simone e Vincenzo

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

After investigation, it was discovered that their top hackers had simply shown Kim maps.google.com

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No it was much more than that, they embedded it in a NK government web page. It took a while to figure out how to get the Google Maps API key working.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

"I'm sorry sir, it's... Slightly different than it was last time, but the support pages haven't been updated."

[–] mlekar@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

So basically the new North Korean spy satellite can pull pictures from google earth?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Yes Kim... Yes... Very good. Congratulations on achieving what every other country could do for the past 30 or more years. I'm sure he's feeling very accomplished...

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Im thinking closer to 50 lol

[–] athos77@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

And like he wasn't already getting pictures from the Chinese and the Soviets, lol.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is impressive if they didn't get help from Russia or China.

Most of these technologies are not easy to create for nation without education and resources.

NK is saying they are progressing and that I find better than being dependent on other countries.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

NK is saying they are progressing and that I find better than being dependent on other countries.

In what universe would this be a good thing?

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

They're known to just kidnap useful people, you don't need much to do that.

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, they weren’t even trying until pretty recently.

I feel like most people have no clue most of the history of NK. They pretty much fell out of most peoples heads after the Korean War. They didn’t even start trying to build nukes until after Bush essentially threatened to invade them with his axis of evil speech. They were significantly more developed than the south until either the 80s or 90s, and if we hadn’t threatened them to where they feel the need for constant Sabre-rattling, it’s unlikely that they would have ever attempted to get up a spy satellite, because prior to our efforts, they were focused primarily on development, not military or espionage.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

NK had nukes in the early 90s.

https://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/08/24/north.korea.carter.backstory/index.html

Carter's 1994 trip to Pyongyang was successful in defusing the first North Korean nuclear crisis, paving the way for the 1994 Agreed Framework in which North Korea pledged to give up its nuclear weapons in return for aid.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I know others are commenting that the same views can be seen on publicly available satellite imagery, but that's missing the point.

The concern is that NK has reached a milestone in orbital rocketry and while a basic so-called spy satellite has taken beginner level photos, they have figured out how to put a payload into a solid orbit. That information works for ICBMs as much as it works for tinker toy payloads.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

ICBM are both an easier and harder task than putting satellites into orbit.

Easier in that the math and fuel requirements are a lot easier if you don't need a stable orbit so much as a trajectory.

Harder in that your payload is likely considerably heavier if you want to make the ICBM worth the cost.

To use video game terminology: the two are different branches of the same tech tree with a potential join for an endgame super weapon (rods from god)

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

It's still a lot of the same math. A successful launch like this is a lot learned for all applications.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

If the game goes to k3 you eventually get rkms and instant death mode where your enemies martydom with a vacuum decay

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[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

And we are just going to pretend they can use it 24/7, because they have so many partners around the world. In reality it's like 20 minutes a day or less.

[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

NK space force achieved Google Map screenshot.

[–] gigachad@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's over guys, the enemy found out the position of the white house. With their secret technology they could find out that the color of the white house is indeed white.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

we should fuck with them and paint it something else. Like maybe Tye-Dye.

[–] force@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

we should shoot it down just for the funny

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

We could probably even nag it intact to the ground, that way you don't create a lot of space debris.

[–] The_one_and_only@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

I don't know for sure, but can't you find pictures of the White House with Google? Seems a lot cheaper...

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


On Tuesday North Korean state media said leader Kim Jong Un had reviewed spy satellite photos of the White House, Pentagon and U.S. aircraft carriers at the naval base of Norfolk.

North Korea last week successfully launched its first reconnaissance satellite, which it has said was designed to monitor U.S. and South Korean military movements.

Since then state media has reported the satellite photographed cities and military bases in South Korea, Guam, and Italy, in addition to the U.S. capital.

Chad O'Carroll, founder of the North Korea-focused website NK News, said of the KCNA reports in a post on X.

Jeffrey Lewis, another researcher at CNS, said a state media photo of Kim examining the satellite images with his daughter suggest they may be panchromatic, a type of black-and-white photography that is sensitive to all wavelengths of visible light.

The United States and South Korea have condemned the satellite launch as a violation of U.N. Security Council resolutions banning any use of ballistic technology.


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